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OlafS25 
Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog
Posted on 17-Feb-2014 12:50:07
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@Overflow

"AmigaOS platform"

if developer think commercial and not idealogic they will publish it on both and users will decide what they prefer. "Choice" is also important (next to user-friendliness and functionality). And also how complicated it is to care for your offerings, if you can do administration on yourself or if you have to send emails or how complicated payment is and so on.

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Posted on 17-Feb-2014 13:07:37
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@OlafS25

If the developer is ideologic hes simply does not compile it, he will only compiles it for platform he likes, and forget about the rest.

there are many AROS developers who does not take the time to compile a AmigaOS and MorphOS version, so this goes bout ways.

If shop is multi platform or not does not change that fact.

If a developers have interest to support more then one OS and has the time to support more then one OS, and also is interested to get payed for his work then he will upload it to more then one shop, if he thinks it worth trying to sell.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

and how many AmigaOS/MorphOS-Developers compile for AROS?

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@OlafS25

Do you think developers will change there mind, just because a shop is multi platform or not?

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If someone only creates "AmigaOS"-Software he could sell it only on Trevors solution but perhaps he also offers Windows/Mac/Linux-Versions. Or he develops 68k software that is compatible to Aros 68k then he could sell it also to AROS-Users because it runs there in emulation. And so on. He only has one platform where he can upload/remove his offerings and does not need to change it on several platforms where he might forget something. It is doable with just 1-2 games/applications but it is becoming more time-consuming the more you want to offer.

68k software would be a good example, you could sell it in best case to MorphOS, AmigaOS, AROS, "Classic"-User or people who use it with WinUAE/FS-UAE or even Android-Smartphones.

One very important thing is to have your own administration-interface. Nothing is more nerving than sending emails to change offers.

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@OlafS25

If the developer decides to sell it Android, register to for sale in the Play Store.

If he want to sell it to Apple customers, he will sell it using the IStore.

And sell it trow Windows Store, or Steam or some thing like that.

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and then when he wants to sell to AmigaOS and MorphOS (one game lately)

he adds one store for AmigaOS

then he adds another store for MorphOS

and when he would have a AROS-Version he adds the AROS-Store

Why do you want to explain me that a "one-platform" store makes more sense than a cross-platform solution covering more users with one interface? I am pretty sure that commercial developers who have one thing not (or not much), time, will think different.

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@OlafS25

I just don't get what the big buzz is about.

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Congratulations on another software project about to bear fruit.

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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog
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@OlafS25

Well, having quick access to "other platforms" does present access to money from customers that
does not have OS4 machines, but still "lurks" the Amiga community.
Battle Squadron comes to mind. Their webfront made accessing all platform binaries very easy.
Providing such access does support and encourages developers that still support AmigaOS4 (which is Trevors focal point).

So I do see that big positive with regards to "building a future" for the AmiStore and Trevors/Aeons foundation.

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@Overflow

I think you did not understand him correctly. His solution is "AmigaOS"-Exclusive. It is a application that runs on AmigaOS. How could anyone use it who not already uses AmigaOS?

Look at the pictures on http://blog.a-eon.biz/blog/?m=20140216

"Contrary to many other Web-based stores, AMIstore is an application written to run under the AmigaOS on you Next-Generation Amiga."

BTW I overread the administration part. So people can change it themselves without emails

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@OlafS25

Ah...

Well, it took a long time before Steam branched into Linux...

But atleast the "application part" might make a Steamlike client come true

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@Olaf..
don't give to much Input ; ) They are opponents now.

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Really? ok

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@phoenixkonsole

Of course more platforms, more sales, more mony for Trever.

But as a user, I probably wont care.
As Developer I pick store whit the smallest fee.

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Yep but on the other Hand i would put my Software everywhere. It mus tnot have the same Price at any time.

I for example have stuff in my store and on ebay where i pay additional fees but hit People who doesn't know about ares-shop.de

indieGO-Marketplace will have apps for PPC-macs as well so classic mac users will spot for example MorphOS there.

For me it is definetely the Plattform to sell own or licensed apps and games so i have no Problem with amistore.

BTW.. we have a Amiga dealer in Germany who is called amistore...

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@phoenixkonsole

Then, where is the problem that AmiStore is (supposedly) AmigaOS only? Developers still could decide to use your shop, too.

If they decide to do so is solely up to you and your shop (design, conditions etc.). Its not about "fanboys" and such b*llsh*t. Its about feeling comfortable and welcome

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@whose
Ehmm i have no problem at all ; )
It is just that what they do is what i do and so 2 parties spend manhours.
But as someone pointed out, everyone can do whis his money what he likes to do.
For my instance i had wished part of the money could have spend on a new modern tcp stack allowing modern streaming techniques to be used on amiga os and aros...
Sure again for my own plans for amc.

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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog
Posted on 17-Feb-2014 20:53:16
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@phoenixkonsole

You should stop taking this serious. This AmiStore thing is just a publicity stunt, especially if it is concentrated on AmigaOS4 (not even Amiga in general) software. They will only use it to generate some attention in the public.

Maybe it will be registered as 'Something new from former cult computer Amiga'


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I know you have own plans for an AppStore, just do it and don't ask people from the AmigaOS4 camp. If you have a good Aros68k software bundle for the RaspPi you will have more download than a perfect office package for AOS4 could have.

EOT

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Quote:

Arko wrote:
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You should stop taking this serious. This AmiStore thing is just a publicity stunt,.........


It is good that you have so many fervent fans in your camp, such as Arko. It makes the
rest of us envious.


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