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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog
Posted on 13-Oct-2014 18:22:20
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So what have I learnt from Play Expo? We see an AmigaOne X1000 sporting an animated background - spinning boing ball.

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@cgutjahr

I wasn't going to comment in this thread at this point as the childishness of it has gone over board.

However the factual inaccuracies also getting ridiculous.

The term "amigos" is mention 14 times in that article and the term linux only 12.

A large part of the blog focuses on AmiStore which is clearly aimed at AmigaOS (both 4.1 and 3.x apparently) another part on the upcoming AmiWest , which is focussed on all amiga related activity.

@thread

As to the logo and name debate, FFS grow up! It's just a computer, exact definitions of amiga and sizes of font doesn't matter.

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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog
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now where's the popcorn little emoticon thingy gone ??

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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog
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@number6

Quote:

Trevor happens to enjoy writing as well and obviously attempts to keep people informed.

I agree on that. I just pointed out the initial reason you gave ("offering options that can increase sales") is bogus IMHO.

@broadblues

I'm not sure why you're addressing me? #6 brought up Linux.

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However the factual inaccuracies also getting ridiculous.

The blog entry contains a summary of recent Linux related activities. Nothing spectacular, but still a few things that happened in the last two months (new Kernel, MOL, Live DVD...). As far as OS4 related news are concerned, it's mentioned that some Cyrus betatester has made a video of the boot process - but we don't get to see the actual video.

Counting the Term "Linux" in the blog entry is a rather... interesting approach - I'll give you that. But wouldn't it make more sense to compare what the last real progress update (let alone actual progress) for AmigaOS 4 was, and how much Linux news you've seen from A1X camp?

(edit: typo)

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wawa 
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@cgutjahr

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it's mentioned that some Cyrus betatester has made a video of the boot process

actually we have got even more than that from the arix fb page, namely an actual video that it boots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDCNZFPR1K8&feature=youtu.be
that said i do not consider any of the projects actually alive.. while i trust the aeon hardware will be available for linux in a due time.

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@wawa

Just to be clear, since this thing seems to be dated months ago?

This is ARIX-OS booting on Cyrus?

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@number6

No. It's Arix booting on a standard X86 motherboard.

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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog
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@terminills

Well, I hope you can understand my confusion, since wawa opened by quoting "Cyrus". Heh.

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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog
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Quote:
alexw wrote:

I don't know who is more fundamentalist: The people who accept new computers as successors to the Amiga line, even if they are quite different in hardware or the people who only accept the old computers they grew up with as the one and only true Amigas. Oh wait, I do know.


+1

Good point

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@number6

just a demonstration of what does it mean to talk about something vs actually proving it. however as you see on arix example, it does not actually prove anything to get a system booting with some os. it may take onother decade to get it out of the beta stage, right?

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From Trevor's blog:

Meanwhile, based on our specifications to provide the user with a much more "Amiga-like" early start-up experience, Ultra Varisys have been customizing the Cyrus+ UBOOT firmware. It's all coming along very nicely


If this means what I think it does (fixing the EarlyStartup menu, etc), then..

At last, hope it turns out great!

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@number6

Well it could boot. But I do not have a "Cyrus" with or without quotes. :)

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@marko

well then, if someone sticks to alphabet as it is, namely a, b, c, d, ... z, he is a fundamentalïst, because he needs to accept that you come over with your own concept that it is a, c, f, t, r... as well as 5 x 5 = 8?

or quite the opposite, when someone against all odds keeps telling everybody 5 x 5 = 8 and prosecutes every resistance.
which of these is fundamentalism for you? frankly.


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@marko

A mouse driven graphical bios would be very nice but far from essential.

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@terminills

Quote:
There's a reason why A.inc never produced an "Amiga" or even had a licensed one released.


Commodore USA had (has?) licence for "Amiga" computers.

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@cdimauro

Quote:
Whatever CPU AmigaDOS was ported to it would run faster if the CPU was faster...


Quote:
Amiga, Inc. will not be making new machines. New machines will come from companies who have a license from Amiga International.


Joe Torre.



Quote:
From the same source (in chronological order):


My source was Bill McEwen (2002), you listed much older plans and dreams - QNX, Linux/AmigaOE, AmigaDE (as stand-alone OS). AmigaOne is last attempt for Amiga rebirth and most successful to date.

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@Zylesea

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There is no Amiga branded computer in production.


AmigaOne is brand created by Amiga.Inc - so it is Amiga brand.


@All

Sorry for belated (little bit OT) replies (3 days out of civilization ).

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@thread

I guess it's not just AW finding some of the latest blog controversial and/or worthy of discussion.

http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/comments/thread/AN-2014-10-00028-DE.html

87 comments and growing. Heh.

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@pavlor

Quote:

pavlor wrote:
@cdimauro

Quote:
Whatever CPU AmigaDOS was ported to it would run faster if the CPU was faster...


Quote:
Amiga, Inc. will not be making new machines. New machines will come from companies who have a license from Amiga International.


Joe Torre.

It doesn't change the picture, if he was entitled to do such claims.

Aside this, the first sentence is technically correct, because it's obvious. I reported it only because it generically talks of porting AmigaDOS (sigh!) to whatever architecture.

The second is also correct, because I'm not aware of machines directly produced by Amiga Inc.. Do you?
Quote:
Quote:
From the same source (in chronological order):


My source was Bill McEwen (2002), you listed much older plans and dreams - QNX, Linux/AmigaOE, AmigaDE (as stand-alone OS).

It doesn't matter if they were older or "dreams" (which is your opinion here): they were OFFICIAL statements and plans.

In some cases, they included partnerships to achieve the goals.

And in some cases they also produced results; for example: http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/press/24oct2001.html

What's the problem here? You cannot cherry-pick only the part of the Amiga history that you like...
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AmigaOne is last attempt for Amiga rebirth and most successful to date.

Yes, but the history shows that it was only the "second" (and very late) plan: recycling the (very) old Amiga o.s. to give something, a little toy, for the waiting users, while keeping the focus to the real, next, "big thing".

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Quote:

pavlor wrote:
@Zylesea

Quote:
There is no Amiga branded computer in production.


AmigaOne is brand created by Amiga.Inc - so it is Amiga brand.

I quote Manu here:

Quote:

Manu wrote:

Then why not just take out away ONE and the X from the name then and call it AMIGA 5000 ?

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