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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 17-Apr-2014 10:47:45
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PCIE bus needs DMA. DMA support is currently only implemented for the Sam machines. Note the speedup with DMA for the Sam460ex. When DMA suppor for the X1000 comes then we will see a big speed up . _________________ Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card |
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 17-Apr-2014 19:54:42
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Ah, of course! I kind of took DMA for granted! 
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When DMA suppor for the X1000 comes then we will see a big speed up . |
Any ETA on that BTW?
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DMA support is currently only implemented for the Sam machines. Note the speedup with DMA for the Sam460ex. |
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Sam460ex Operation MiB/s Copy to VRAM 303.38 Write Pixel Array 668.93 Copy from VRAM 58.20 Read Pixel Array 110.99 |
So is this on par with what to expect from a four-lane PCI express bus with DMA? |
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 26-Apr-2014 16:09:16
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| New Liveforit version 2.1 of Mplayer is slower on my Sam440ep-flex than his 1.1 version.
"RAM Disk:mplayer-no-altivec" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" MPlayer LiveForIt V1.1 - SVN-rSVN-r32634-4.2.4(C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team BENCHMARKs: VC: 63.055s VO: 31.212s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.892s = 96.159s BENCHMARK%: VC: 65.5740% VO: 32.4584% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.9677% = 100.0000%
"RAM Disk:mplayer-noaltivec" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" MPlayer LiveForIt V2.1 - SVN-rSVN-r32634-4.2.4(C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team BENCHMARKs: VC: 61.477s VO: 42.376s A: 0.000s Sys: 3.038s = 106.891s BENCHMARK%: VC: 57.5135% VO: 39.6444% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.8421% = 100.0000% Last edited by Spectre660 on 26-Apr-2014 at 04:14 PM.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 26-Apr-2014 17:36:30
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I think you find that it slows down a tiny bit if you resized the window. When the window is not resized the graphics drawn direct on the window, if you re-size the graphic goes into temporary bitmap and its re-sized and then drawn into the window.
If you have sam440 your better off using p96_pip, I think.
1.1 did not draw into the window, when it re-sized the bitmap it also draw the graphic on top of window, whit some bad side effects.
Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 26-Apr-2014 at 05:43 PM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 26-Apr-2014 at 05:42 PM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 26-Apr-2014 at 05:40 PM.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 26-Apr-2014 18:24:15
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I dont have a working Radeon 9xxx. Am using a Radeon HD 6670 via a pic to pcie adapter. Actual play back with audio still works very well but the benchmark test indicates a slowdown. Window resizing is smooth and I like the mouse wheel function
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I think you find that it slows down a tiny bit if you resized the window. When the window is not resized the graphics drawn direct on the window, if you re-size the graphic goes into temporary bitmap and its re-sized and then drawn into the window.
If you have sam440 your better off using p96_pip, I think.
1.1 did not draw into the window, when it re-sized the bitmap it also draw the graphic on top of window, whit some bad side effects.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 4-May-2014 13:11:54
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 4-May-2014 16:13:35
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Hi Spectre. I found a used RadeonHD 6870 Saphire and works fine in my SAM440 Flex. But only appears 256 Mb of Video Memory. Is this normal ? So it's a fault from the driver ?
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 4-May-2014 16:26:16
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Yes.
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So it's a fault from the driver ? |
Picasso96 sees only 256 MB. Look at RadeonHD driver blog for better explanation. |
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 4-May-2014 16:30:34
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Hans wrote:The 256 MiB VRAM is due to Picasso96 assuming that the CPU has direct access to all VRAM. With newer graphics cards only the first 256 MiB is directly accessible over the PCIe/PCI bus, as otherwise your VRAM would take up too much address space (for 32-bit processors). The rest of the VRAM is only directly accessible by the GPU itself. As a consequence, Picasso96 will only ever know about the first 256 MiB. Not to worry, 3D graphics drivers will be able to access the rest.
Why 207 MiB free? Well, to start with the graphics driver reserves some space for its own use (for shaders, command packets, etc.). The Workbench screen that you're looking at also takes up VRAM, as does all of the icons, theme bitmaps, or any other bitmap currently being used. High resolution graphics takes up a lot of space. |
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 4-May-2014 17:39:48
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 21-May-2014 13:06:42
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| Latest Mplayer Benchmark results. Performed with a Radeon HD6670 .
"RAM Disk:mplayer" -nosound -benchmark -quiet "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" MPlayer LiveForIt V5.1 - SVN-rSVN-r32634-4.2.4(C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team BENCHMARKs: VC: 62.957s VO: 41.766s A: 0.000s Sys: 2.512s = 107.234s BENCHMARK%: VC: 58.7097% VO: 38.9482% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.3422% = 100.0000%
"RAM Disk:mplayer-Beta9 " -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" MPlayer UNKNOWN-4.4.3 (C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team BENCHMARKs: VC: 58.986s VO: 48.135s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.523s = 107.644s BENCHMARK%: VC: 54.7977% VO: 44.7168% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.4855% = 100.0000%
"RAM Disk:mplayer-joerg-beta11" -nosound -benchmark -quiet "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" MPlayer SVN-r37148-4.5.4 (C) 2000-2014 MPlayer Team BENCHMARKs: VC: 54.006s VO: 54.773s A: 0.000s Sys: 3.513s = 112.292s BENCHMARK%: VC: 48.0943% VO: 48.7774% A: 0.0000% Sys: 3.1283% = 100.0000%
RAM Disk:mplayer_Beta9" -nosound -benchmark -quiet "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" BENCHMARKs: VC: 66.041s VO: 120.384s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.745s = 187.171s BENCHMARK%: VC: 35.2839% VO: 64.3179% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.3982% = 100.0000% Last edited by Spectre660 on 26-May-2014 at 09:59 AM.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 25-May-2014 19:30:24
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The composite make a big difference in actual video playback. Also comparing the Sam440ep-Flex + Radeon HD to the Sam60ex+ Radeon HD below. Shows the Sam460ex as 2.55 times faster than the Sam 440ep on playback of the superman.flv video. Comparing composite benchmarks for these video cards in the above machines the Radeon HD 4670 in the Sam460ex scores about 520.56 and the Radeon HD 6670 in the Sam440ep-flex scores 336.36. So the Radeon HD 4670 performs about 1.55 time faster on average in composite functions when used on a Sam460ex than the Radeon HD6670 in a Sam440ep-Flex,
Sam440ep-Flex Radeon HD 6670 ddr3
BENCHMARKs: VC: 62.957s VO: 41.766s A: 0.000s Sys: 2.512s = 107.234s BENCHMARK%: VC: 58.7097% VO: 38.9482% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.3422% = 100.0000%
Sam460ex Radeon 4670 ddr3
BENCHMARKs: VC: 31.460s VO: 10.188s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.406s = 42.055s BENCHMARK%: VC: 74.8078% VO: 24.2257% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.9665% = 100.0000% Last edited by Spectre660 on 25-May-2014 at 08:10 PM. Last edited by Spectre660 on 25-May-2014 at 07:58 PM.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 26-May-2014 5:31:57
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Can you explain me how to perform these benchmarks?
I have a 460 and aRadeon 6670 but did not notice all these increments using liveforit.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 26-May-2014 10:18:19
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mplayer -nosound -benchmark -quiet Videofile
Livefor it Mplayer defaults to composite output Mui-mplayer Beta9 defalts to cgx_wpa output
Actual playback with sound demonstrates results better though. On a Sam460ex you want to try a video larger than 704x404 to see when the audio and video are not in sync .
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Can you explain me how to perform these benchmarks?
I have a 460 and aRadeon 6670 but did not notice all these increments using liveforit.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 26-May-2014 10:57:39
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and if you put the 6670 on Sam460 is it better than 4670 ???
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 26-May-2014 11:06:06
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The 4670 DDR3 has a better Composite score than the 6670 DDR3. The overall 2D Score for the 6670 is better though. a 6670 DDR5 would perform a bit better on composite than the 4670 DDR3 though.
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and if you put the 6670 on Sam460 is it better than 4670 ???
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 31-May-2014 12:56:57
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 4-Jun-2014 14:05:12
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Latest SMtube + Liveforit-Mplayer 5.1 work well with 360p flv videos on my configuration. Sam440ep-flex 800mhz + Radeon HD6670 DDR3 _________________ Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card |
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 5-Jun-2014 12:07:38
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Switched to HDMI output. Working well under AmigaOS 4.1 and Linux. _________________ Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card |
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 14-May-2015 20:28:44
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Sam440ep-itx pci to pcie adapter Operation MiB/s Copy to VRAM 11.22 Write Pixel Array 11.21 Copy from VRAM 10.32 Read Pixel Array 10.37
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With a new U-Boot and graphics.library currently in development, I've obtained some more MiB/s on the Sam440ep mini-itx model when using a RadeonHD card, in particular DMA from RAM to VRAM now works:
Sam440ep-itx Radeon HD5450 PCI Edition Operation MiB/s Copy to VRAM 11.82 Write Pixel Array 54.67 Copy from VRAM 14.96 Read Pixel Array 14.92
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