@Cool_amigaN

No I do not think that there is any connection. Chris saw someone using a MOS theme on Aros (I think it was about annotate), moaned about it and then started a thread about it.

@OlafS25

he may have been inspired, as similar aggressive comments or rather news items appreared simultanously on polish portals without any relevance to this concrete issue, that was pretty minor anyway. the mos and aros being portrayed as thieves who broke into the empty house in absence of legitimate owners. lol!

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I'm still to see a reason for Hyperion to have anything to do with this... It's got zero OS4 code or artwork in it so on what grounds exactly can they say anything about it?
I know they threatend MOS and AROS before, but as nothing came from that it's clear they have got no case or money to sue anybody.

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@wawa

Really nonsense...

@clusteruk

Wow… If all this is true and something as inconsequential as using some "icons"or the like to try and help promote new interest in the Amiga leads to all this utter BS on the part of certain "companies" & people then it really just goes to show there is no chance of anything positive ever happening when it comes to the Amiga and those still in it trying to make money from it...

It pisses me off the type of people that are left hanging on like grim death to anything they can that has the Amiga name associated with it…

Most of the time they actually do sod all except spout on about vapourware then whine and cry like big girls blouses when anyone dares question or comment about the hot air they spouted and seem simply hell bent on keeping whatever they have to themselves even if it means slowly chocking to death any outside interest of what is left of the Amiga…

Am I glad I don't have to rely on them for anything when it comes to the Amiga but it sure as hell makes me mad when I see the damn shoddy way they treat those who do and basically treat them like crap…

I honestly wish these companies and greedy selfish type of people would just go out of business once and for all and take all their petty legal BS with them and leave genuine Amiga users alone whom actually want to do something positive for the Amiga name and it's users instead of hanging on like grim death and picking the corpse until they have finally destroyed the name and legacy of the Amiga totally…

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And that all without taking another breath

I still do not understand Steves problem. He wanted to promote AOS in Aros and Hyperion was not interested. Then drop OS4, change theme and icons and that is it. You need a couple of hours to replace icons so where is the problem?

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Well as you may be aware it was deemed as not a good idea, to be honest there were good reasons explained by Hyperion but I think personally they could have been resolved.

That's pretty vague; what were they? I've read suggestions you were threatened with legal action and so on. If true, I would't call that a "good" reason. Are you able to clarify for us?

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What is so hard to understand, you can't distribute AmigaOS material whit out the right to do so.

And what material was that?

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OlafS25 wrote: @Franko And that all without taking another breath I still do not understand Steves problem. He wanted to promote AOS in Aros and Hyperion was not interested. Then drop OS4, change theme and icons and that is it. You need a couple of hours to replace icons so where is the problem?

Not sure myself what the full story is but the sad thing about it all is, quite simply with all the big talk recently about "collaboration" then what hope is there for that, if someone "allegedly" gets clobbered for simply trying to help promote all things Amiga to those outside the community...

Often wonder why anyone even bothers trying anymore when it always end up in this sort if mess...

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Even worst if Clusteruk made money on stolen graphics.

Care to back up that libelous statement? What stolen graphics?

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Bah, duplicate post due to browser issue.

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I still do not understand Steves problem. He wanted to promote AOS in Aros and Hyperion was not interested. Then drop OS4, change theme and icons and that is it. You need a couple of hours to replace icons so where is the problem?

you could be right, perhaps there is more to it, steve, as integer he is, still doent want to share.

@wawa

Or maybe rPi pulled out of the project...

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as integer he is

What do you mean to express by that? The phrase has no meaning in english.

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he was referring to steve's integrity.

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okay so he meant,

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man of integrity as he is

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if so my apoligies for not be able to interpret that

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@NutsAboutAmiga

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Even worst if Clusteruk made money on stolen graphics


That is a rather nasty accusation to make. If you're going to suggest something like that then show some evidence or provide a link to whoever else suggested it, otherwise this is just a combination of a personal attack and trolling. We don't need that here.

I think it is obvious from Steve's comments that he "stole" nothing and demoing OS4 is more "fair use" to me.

This could have been a nice opportunity to remind people that Amiga is still alive and isn't just a rebadged PC case from Florida.

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@clusteruk

great video as always! I love the idea and I'm quite confused with the issues you had as I think the icons used on AspireOS are just great so why all the drama over icons and GUI

I say don't get caught up in politics and move forward with the Amiga spirit on the Pi.

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@Darrin

There is a “if” word in there, I think it good thing he did make that mistake, I think he is horribly naive to even think he can distribute any part of AmigaOS, even icons.
I think horribly childish of him to complain about it.

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@Thread

Thanks for the replies.

Lets not get bogged down with the icons, I had planned to ether have created a new set or more likely use the icons with Paolo's Icaros and call it Icaros Pi after the response on the OS4 style icons from the PRIVATE release. If it had been considered a good idea by all then it would have been released as such. I have not released it and have left Pascal to pursue his version and will possibly do an Icaros for Pi version if I can get myself interested again.

It is amusing that Franko truly gets the issue, its just a few icons and they were only added to help promote AmigaOS4 where it had zero chance of being linked and getting good PR in this community, unlike Aros which still has a chance to be linked with the rPi. It was just a thought on cooperation, but obviously not a good one, hence me getting other peoples private feedback on the idea.

On the subject of making money from this project, and something nobody picked up on, was I wanted to make an A3000 replica case for the rPi, sell that and have the OS available by download in whatever form it took, nobody commented on how good this actually is or not, I will do another video with the OS4 icons already removed and show it as it is now.

Just to be clear, the Raspberry Pi team did not see the AmigaOS4 icons version and this version of Aros had nothing to do with them financing Aros.

Finally

This was a PRIVATE project for my interest unless there was interest from others, there was not, it is removed and so will the video be removed and made private again.

I have to say the last person to release private information about what I was thinking about was CUSA, hence my annoyance and making me realise I have better things to do with my time.

Trust me, AmigaOS4 will no longer occupy any of my time.

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