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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 13-Mar-2014 17:17:25
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 13-Mar-2014 22:47:43
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| acpu upgrade should be posible via via pci. like the sime twin projekt or like the shark card from elbox. ther should make an transputer accralor card with like 50 arm cpu on a pci slot alone with an x86 for delopment, some kind of warpos could be done that way right ???. and then flip the thing put an ppc card on a pci and then into a pc with it maby ?
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 13-Mar-2014 22:53:11
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 14-Mar-2014 0:49:18
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| Do anyone know if Cyrus have a FPGA on the mobo to tinker with? _________________ AmigaOS 4.1 FEu2 on Sam440ep-flex 800MHz 1GB RAM C128, A500+, A1200, A1200/40, AmigaForever 2008+09+16, 5 x86/x64 boxes Still waiting (or dreaming) for the Amiga revolution... m4rko.com/AMIGA |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 14-Mar-2014 4:07:09
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Well it has a Lattice chip with a part number that suggests it's an FPGA and it appears to be connected to the XTAG header pins. Whether or not it's user addressable is another thing, I think FPGAs are usually configured at startup. Maybe Trevor can let you know more. |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 14-Mar-2014 4:23:44
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Oh, sounds interesting, thanks for the info _________________ AmigaOS 4.1 FEu2 on Sam440ep-flex 800MHz 1GB RAM C128, A500+, A1200, A1200/40, AmigaForever 2008+09+16, 5 x86/x64 boxes Still waiting (or dreaming) for the Amiga revolution... m4rko.com/AMIGA |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 14-Mar-2014 6:15:20
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Most likely the FPGA is already in use for something. Like changing xcore I/O config to xorro/xjtag etc.
On cyrus there's the xena chip that is meant to do similar things like FPGA, but in SW. _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer? |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 14-Mar-2014 6:19:34
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"cpu upgrade on PCIe"
We would first need some use for that kind of conf. For example if one would need cluster for some processing, those Telecom chips with 10-100Gbit ethernet enabled would be interesting. (but perhaps OpenCL port is more sane, as it can multiply processing capability for 3D rendering etc.) _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer? |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 15-Mar-2014 1:27:42
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Hmm, oki...
But would be cool to emulate an A500 or A1200 in "hardware" and put it on the FPGA like in the Minimig.. And free the PowerPC CPU for other tasks or just emulate an 680x0 on it and leave the rest for the FPGA to emulate... :P _________________ AmigaOS 4.1 FEu2 on Sam440ep-flex 800MHz 1GB RAM C128, A500+, A1200, A1200/40, AmigaForever 2008+09+16, 5 x86/x64 boxes Still waiting (or dreaming) for the Amiga revolution... m4rko.com/AMIGA |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 15-Mar-2014 2:08:48
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A bit pointless when the system is powerful enough to do it in software. |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 15-Mar-2014 2:29:01
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Yeah maybe but it could be fun to tinker with or use the FPGA for something else perheps... Last edited by marko on 15-Mar-2014 at 02:29 AM.
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 15-May-2014 16:39:17
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| What's the difference between Cyrus and Cyrus Plus motherboards?
I mean, apart the number of connectors, both can have installed the same cpu?
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 15-May-2014 16:43:36
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Cyrus is older revision of Cyrus Plus - only Cyrus Plus designs will be sold. |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 15-May-2014 17:06:35
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In a complete system or also standalone? |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 15-May-2014 17:29:19
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In a complete system or also standalone? |
I think Trevor talked about both complete system and motherboard only. |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 15-May-2014 18:07:29
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A bit pointless when the system is powerful enough to do it in software. |
Emulating things in software is wast of CPU resources, and the CPU mostly do things in serial, it has hard time, emulating things clock cycle perfect, a FPGA can emulate many chips simultaneously and whit in perfect clock cycles.
FPGA can be great for many things, video decoding and lots of cool stuff, I love to have FPGA working as some sort of DMA based video/audio decoder, sand a batch job to it and wait for it complete the task in no time, while CPU is free to do some thing else.Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 15-May-2014 at 06:08 PM.
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 15-May-2014 18:27:20
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You might want to clarify your statement above a bit, as when I first read it, I thought you were saying that over 1000 Cyrus+ motherboards were in production, not that each Cyrus+ motherboard takes over 1000 parts to produce one Cyrus+ motherboard.
I am guessing that it would be very expensive for Trevor and AmigaKit to start production of the Cyrus+ with a run of over 1000 motherboards, but who knows, maybe they have hundreds of pre-orders (I have not yet heard or read about pre-orders being taken, but then I own an X1000, so I am not keeping up to date with the latest Cyrus+ info, and they might be taking orders, or actually selling to beta testers for all I know).
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 15-May-2014 20:10:52
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Looks like four motherboards from the video... |
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Re: A-EON Project "CYRUS" Posted on 16-May-2014 11:09:30
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The plan is to have Cyrus+ with P5020 later P5040 and P3041. (but, IMO, there is no point in P3041 version, as it's only marginally cheaper than P5020 and requires the support for 500mc core, etc... unless they are available for free somewhere... I would rather see more e5500 core versions and then work to support e6500 core) _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer? |
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