@pavlor

but real programming on 4.X started I think 2001 or 2002, long after Aros and MorphOS. They used reworked original 3.1 sources from 1996 and then added components from 3.5/3.9 when possible because H&P did not cooperate there. That is how I have read it in the forums.

@OlafS25

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there is no easy way to attract the masses again.

I completely agree and have absolutely no expectations that'll ever happen at this point. I'm just here to rekindle an old flame and have some fun!

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@Alloye

and spend some money obviously

("future X5000 owner")

@OlafS25

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but real programming on 4.X started I think 2001

Of course.

@OlafS25

Gotta pay to play!

@OlafS25

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you would need really new software and services that not exist on other platforms.

And reasonable price.

@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: @cdimauro I am not aware that the AmigaOS camp is able to detect additional cores and use them at all and that would be needed to do that at all on software level. I know that the aros devs have managed to do that. Other than that not everything even skilled persons say is necessarily well thought and true. We will see who is right as soon AmigaOS runs on it. It sounds a little like multithreading... rather theoretical here

It's simply an AMP design. It can be done transparently by the o.s., or it can also provide APIs in order to let applications offload jobs to the other cores (but SMP doesn't needed such APIs).


@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @OlafS25 Quote: started before 4.X even was in discussion. I don´t think AROS or MorphOS are there since 1992.

That was a different thing. It was the normal Amiga o.s., running on an Amiga chipset (AAA, I think), and on a 68K processor.

AmigaOS 4, as it's now, started on 2001, as a port to PowerPC of the Amiga o.s. version 3.1. So, it's the youngest of the three post-Amiga o.ses.

@cdimauro

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That was a different thing.

Olaf wrote about discussions, I pointed to one. For fun!

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So, it's the youngest of the three post-Amiga o.ses.

Youngest? I thought AmigaOS developement started more than 30 years ago.

@pavlor

AmigaOS or Amiga OS?

*hides behind a wall*

@OlafS25

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AmigaOS or Amiga OS?

Is there any difference now?

@Alloye

+1

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now, just to interrupt off topic. according to people vising the show, the price figure was personal opinion of person in charge of presenting the board (xeno?), so its either been simply his expectation or maybe there were some internal considerations, that unintentionally leaked to the public. who can tell?

@wawa

Xeno?

@OlafS25

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Xeno?

Christian Zigotzky. Read more on MorphZone.

@pavlor

it was mainly a answer to Wawas rhetoric question

@50mm

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I do not want to start a war between aos4.1 and its clones , I just express my personal opinion.

Ah yes...'express my personal opinion', I need to cool my jets on that one myself.

But, as has been mentioned, no one is 'cloning' OS4.
It was the last out of the gate.

All three NG OS' attempt some level of support for the OS3.1 API, but only OS4 attempts to essentially clone OS3.1 in PPC form.

And we didn't ask Stefan Stuntz to create MUI4 (now @ MUI5) for MorphOS as an Amiga compatibility feature.
Its just good software.

AOS MUI4 is in itself, somewhat of a clone, which I don't object to as it gives us some compatibility.

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@cdimauro

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AFAIK the e500v2 has no DSP extensions.

sorry I meam the e500v2 "special" FPU...

@pavlor

well I'm really curious about Tabor's blender test on single and dual core vs Sam460ex...
And possibly with 2.48 ;)

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Was anything about this board said at Amiwest? I tried to watch Trevor's presentation but couldn't undrstand one word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R5KZqu9k-U&feature=youtu.be

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@Everblue

That's not from Amiwest. Recorded in July.

@duga

Ooh... thanks. So, when is Trevor's presentation? Really looking forward to it.

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