@Seiya

Fear? I fear nothing. Especially pointless opinions.

As far as I concern I've been polite as much as you, in fact I demolished your ideas and introduced who you really are to this community by just telling the truth about you:
A troll that hates everything surrounding Amiga despite having a beautiful mind. Using this beautiful mind to destroy and make people upset instead of trying to build something.
As I already said, luckily you have nor the power neither the knowledge to destroy anything and peeps here will see you failing and failing and failing, over and over again.

Or am I wrong?

Cup of coffee, please...

Last edited by Shiryu on 31-Dec-2016 at 11:32 AM.

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Shiryu wrote: Using this beautiful mind to destroy and make people upset instead of trying to build something. As I already said, luckily you have nor the power neither the knowledge to destroy anything Or am I wrong?

This Amiga community needs software ad not ohters and others hardware hungry of these lacking softwares

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@Seiya

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This Amiga community needs software ad not ohters and others hardware hungry of these lacking softwares

What does this comment mean?

Do you mean we dont need Vampire (or any other hardware developments)? But we rather need software?
I agree we need software, but we defintly need hardware options too.
Personally I always wanted a quicker 680x0 machine than my 1230/50, but the age, price and relative rarity of 060s, made Vampire the perfect option.

I guess some of you want us to focus on PPC, which is understandable if you already are invested in AOS 4.x hardware. Tabor might encourage more people to jump on that option (myself included..maybe).

But there has defintly been a need for new 680x0 hardware for a looooong time. The ACA 1230 is obviously a good alternative, but since I already had Blizzard 1230, it would be a sidestep, not much of a upgrade.

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@Overflow

Seiya´s position is logical - why sloooow and expensive hardware when we can use WinUAE. However, Amiga users aren´t known for their logical thinking: for many of us Amiga is not just cold hardware, it is subject full of emotions - a passion I could say.

@Seiya

Oh my goodness... Don't tell me you just wrote what I think I read..
Original Amigas are stuck with a 030 at best because 040 and 060 expansions are too freaking expensive. The goal of the Vampire is to provide a performance boost on original hardware at a decent price (if you can't afford it, it ain't my concern). How the crap is it possible to create new software for new targets out of the original Amiga's limits without new hardware? What you said? WinUAE? And what if I want more expansions (AMMX) or simply love the original hardware?

Dang it, mayn... You're losing the point (and your crusade) again.

I am for the freesom of expression: if you can blast the Vampire without having a single clue of what FPGAs are, I can... Oh.. Wait a second... Now I remember!

You said you don't like the Apollo Team because they are acting like god-like... Uh uh! I got it! You are pissed because they act like this in your eyes and you ain't the prima donna no more, right?

Saint Seiya the Drama Queen!!! LOL

If thats the case, then Seiya should not even think about Amiga, but devote himself fully to Wintel computers. Good luck finding better price vs performance ratio in the Amiga realm.

I would think everyone knew thats not what keeps us tinkering with Amigas, Spectrums, C64, insert any hardware branch.

@pavlor

I agree on the fact that WinUAE is cheap. But passions aren't logical. Plus, with my hard earned money I can do whatever the hell I want. Why? Because we are human and we aren't made to follow the masses but to follow our passions.
Moreover, if I wanna buy a Vampire it's my matter. Nobody is my money's administrator.. Oh wait.. My wife is.. lol

@Overflow

Seiya doesn't give a dime about Amiga as much as you don't give a dime to a piece of dust in a remote country. He thought he could play the god's role in a retro community with his small backpack of experience but it backfired real quick when he understood that Amiga community is made by old sea wolves with truckloads of experience and knowledge. That made him angry because he can't play his much beloved prima donna's role.

double post

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Shiryu wrote: @Overflow Seiya thought he could play the god's role in a retro community.

you wrong now and you will do in the future. I have no role to show :P

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@Seiya

You have no role to show because you can't have a role.

Amigans are too smart to allow some lowlifer have any kind of role.. that's why you keep on trolling, you fits Amiga community like oranges fits apples.. and learn some english, by God. It's a pain to read ya.

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@Shiryu

Please, calm down.

Nooo, this is great entertainment :)

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@pavlor

I'm calm, man. It's extremely relaxing to troll the trolls

@Shiryu

You have crossed the line as far as Im concerned, and add nothing to remotly civil discussion.
What people do on other sites I dont really care about.

Reported.

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@pavlor

then another logical question...

why using outdated and/or expensive PPC hardware if you can either get much cheaper (ARM) or much faster (Intel/AMD). Not logical either.

Seiya position is not logical but it seems he has aversions against the people behind Vamüpire/Apollo project. I understand that Gunnar sometimes is a little overexited and answering critsizm too harsh but at least they are delivering something. Of course running WinUAE on new hardware is faster and cheaper but people are wanting "real" hardware. Why are you interested to buy Tabor (as I understood) that is more or less Raspberry but multiple times more expensive? Seem not logical either :). As I wrote 68k as real hardware at a higher level combined with UAE could offer the chance to get at least some updated software. It will not make the platform mainstream of course but nobody would realistic hope for that.

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@Overflow

I respect your opinion. I'm civil as long as freedom of expression is respected. I'm not tender nor sweet when speaking to someone who thinks to keep the absolute truth and everybody else is a douche. I ain't blaming him for what he did anywhere else, I'm blaming him for all the crap he said here.

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@Overflow

I do not see supporting as problematic

Apollo is fully supporting 020 so everything compiled for 020 should work

as long software uses official APIs and not directly hits hardware it should work (of course if API exists). that is certainly true for 3.x, hopefully also for Aros 68k in future.

there might be cases where directly hitting hardware and using specific apollo features make sense like in certain games

@OlafS25

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why using outdated and/or expensive PPC hardware if you can either get much cheaper (ARM) or much faster (Intel/AMD).

I don´t remember Seiya supporting the PowerPC side.

In this point, his logic is solid.

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Why are you interested to buy Tabor (as I understood) that is more or less Raspberry but multiple times more expensive?

Who said I´m sane?

@pavlor

not he, you mentions PPC and compares it with Vampire as far as I remember