@tlosm

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tlosm wrote: @fishy_fis Belive me ... wii u isnt comparable to Xbox 360 or Ps3 it have much better performances, effects, resolution. and belive me i know what im speaking about

It's not possible to believe someone which doesn't even realized that Xenoblade is sluggish and lags, and that the situation is much worse with the G5 video, which shows horrible slowdowns too.

Even a blind should have seen it, because it's immediately evident.

And before accusing me of being a Nintendo hater: I have a Wii U at home, and NO PS4 or XBoxOne.
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its an half ... add to this all last gens console too and a complete cd32 collection

Having a collection of things means absolutely nothing. Especially if you aren't able to recognize the jerks of the videos that you posted.


@agami

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agami wrote: @cdimauro Also, I never implied that I know the detailed ins and outs of how to engineer this. But what I do have is a very specific set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills....

I don't know what kind of skills are you talking about. You know something related to the IT, like many people which uses a computer, surfs internet, read some IT magazine or site, but it's crystal clear that you have no technical expertize on computer science.
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Jokes aside, I have seen enough things that have been claimed "impossible" made possible. And the history of computing is filled with stories of "it can't be done" only to have some clever engineer figure out a way to do it...

That's a rhetorical story which means nothing. It's like stating that escaping from a black hole is not possible only because there wasn't a genius 'til now which realized how to do it.
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I'm known to be an optimist. I'm also used to people who only seem to focus on what can't be done. Playing devil's advocate can be useful, but a person with your level of knowledge should be using their powers for good.

I already exposed the problematics on the ideas that you, as well as other people, have exposed. And I've already reported my opinion of what solution is better to follow.

The PowerPC road is a blind alley, and it's something which I've stated, with technical facts, from YEARS. I've also written articles, technical ones, of the issues and what to do.

There's nothing more that I can do to let you understand in which direction is better to bet.

But ideas are just ideas: they mean nothing without a technical explanation of what concretely do.


@iggy

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iggy wrote: The cpus in the PS3 and Xbox360 were specifically designed with games in mind (and are still ahead of the cpu in the WiiU) and they are in order cpus. At 2.7 GHz the 970 is built on older technology (but is an out of order system, but is considerably more powerful per core than the Cell BE or the Xenon (with, I might add, better math capability than X86s of its period)..

The Cell's PPE (the PowerPC core) of the PS3 has roughly the ("general purpose") performance of a 1.6Ghz G5. The same is for the XBox360's CPU.
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So back off agami's idea. Its valid and not as hard to implement as you think.

How?


@bison

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bison wrote: @kolla Some terminology disambiguation: task == thread, or something else?

Correct. On the Amiga o.s. we can think of a single process, where each task is a thread of the process.

@cdimauro

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Correct. On the Amiga o.s. we can think of a single process, where each task is a thread of the process.

That's more like MacOS7, switch based tasking..

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where each task is a thread of the process.

That is as incorrect as it gets

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@NutsAboutAmiga

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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: @cdimauro Quote: Correct. On the Amiga o.s. we can think of a single process, where each task is a thread of the process. That's more like MacOS7, switch based tasking..

That's not related to the type of multitasking, but to the fact that all threads share the same address space (the one "inherited" from the "sole process").
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Quote: where each task is a thread of the process. That is as incorrect as it gets

It is, because task == thread on the Amiga o.s., and each task/thread belongs to the "sole process" of the o.s..

NutsAboutAmiga is just intentionally trolling.

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@cdimauro

You have it backwards.
A process is a task with dos shell, Task is primitive and does NOT have A dos shell, so by logic a Task can't be based on more complicated Process.

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@kolla

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NutsAboutAmiga is just intentionally trolling.

He has strong competition in this thread.

@NutsAboutAmiga

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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: @cdimauro You have it backwards. A process is a task with dos shell, Task is primitive and does NOT have dos shell, so by logic a Task can't be based on more complicated Process.

You're confusing things here.

bison asked some clarification regarding terms used in the o.s. literature. Specifically, task == thread. And, in the literature, a thread belongs to a process, which is the entity which encapsulates a specific address space, shared with all its thread.

Now you brought-up the Amiga o.s. Process, which is a different concept.


@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @kolla Quote: NutsAboutAmiga is just intentionally trolling. He has strong competition in this thread.

Yes: you're friends.

@cdimauro

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Yes: you're friends.

Are you sure I was the only one I had in mind?

@pavlor: you're free to publish your list.

@cdimauro

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I have a Wii U at home, and NO PS4 or XBoxOne.

for sure some one make you a present for make you stop speak bed about ...

yes xenoblade is a burpy game ...
for sure you understand this better than all the world magazine and reviewers

http://www.ign.com/games/xenoblade-chronicles-x/wii-u-112162

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@cdimauro

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you're free to publish your list.

I thought you are the one labeling "trolls"...

@tlosm

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tlosm wrote: @cdimauro Quote: I have a Wii U at home, and NO PS4 or XBoxOne. for sure some one make you a present for make you stop speak bed about ...

The only present which I ask you is translating this sentence to an English which is understandable.
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yes xenoblade is a burpy game ... for sure you understand this better than all the world magazine and reviewers http://www.ign.com/games/xenoblade-chronicles-x/wii-u-112162

That has completely nothing to do with what I've said about the game.

Do you understand what I've written, or should I translate in Italian?


@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: you're free to publish your list. I thought you are the one labeling "trolls"...

According to your comment #246:

"He has strong competition in this thread."

you are not less than.

Anyway, nice to see your precious contribute to this thread...

@cdimauro

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Anyway, nice to see your precious contribute to this thread...

From you, this is an honor.

@pavlor

+1

@cdimauro
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The only present which I ask you is translating this sentence to an English which is understandable.

with this reply i understand that youunderstand good ... and this for me is the important :-*

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@tlosm

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@cdimauro Quote: The only present which I ask you is translating this sentence to an English which is understandable. with this reply i understand that youunderstand good ... and this for me is the important :-*

Try Google Translate: you'll get better results...

@cdimauro

really? you had to go there..

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@cdimauro

you are not Shakespare you are the Devil ...

im starting a exorcism to you :

"infernal creature exit from him ... exit from that body ... left his soul for god!

" hell where i had been left the holy wather!!!!"

Lol lol

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@some

L0L!

This is priceless!

I do have some shovels in the barn, let me know if you need them, it will be much easier for you all to sling mud at each other..

christmas love works too, but it's a dirtier business.

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@cdimauro
And now you are insulting my skills. Is that really necessary?

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That's a rhetorical story which means nothing. It's like stating that escaping from a black hole is not possible only because there wasn't a genius 'til now which realized how to do it.

1) I'm sure you meant anecdote. And this is more than just saying "My grandpa smoked a pack of cigarettes a day and lived until 102 so smoking can't be bad for you". With the amount of examples available in computing it forms a statistic supported by historical data.

2) I can't believe you took a computing hardware and software project which mixes components with big and little endianness, and asymmetric and asynchronous 32bit and 64bit microprocessors, and equated it to an extreme cosmological phenomenon.
There's nothing there that hasn't already been confronted and solved by other companies over the past 10-20 years. And you compare that to the limits of scientific understanding?

Next thing you'll tell me you know exactly how a black hole works and what happens to baryonic matter when it passes the event horizon.
BTW some things do escape the massive gravity of a black hole. X-rays (at the poles) and information.

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