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iggy 
Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 27-Jan-2016 17:44:17
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@Daytona675x

"...it may be that A1222 follows X5000 closely enough to postpone the general update until after the A1222 release..."

There is a scary thought.
"...until after the A1222 release..."
One would hope not.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 27-Jan-2016 17:53:21
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@iggy

Rose-tinted glasses mode ON

A1222 could be released early this year!

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 27-Jan-2016 18:10:29
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@pavlor
It's as always: it's done when it's done.
And if they don't tell us concrete delivery dates, well: they certainly don't do that because they like it. Looks like they just can't (and that's why I don't understand why some people ask for such dates over and over again; Hyp will certainly tell us as soon as they can).
Anyway, personally I would like to see frequent but small updates through Amiupdate. But if Costel says that they apparently have good reasons not to do it that way, well, I (have to) accept that.

@Birbo
Yes, this is a forum. Therefore: if you direct a question to somebody who explicitely told you that
Quote:
Costel: I'm not (anymore) reading aw.net regularly, so better don't bet on me answering any questions in short time.
then this forum might be the wrong tool to get you an answer. Especially considering that your question will probably be long long lost in this huge pile of talk in this thread when he logs on the next time.
If you're really interested in getting an answer you should probably consider mailing Hyperion directly or using Hyperion's own forum. Might increase your chances significantly.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 27-Jan-2016 18:20:33
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Daytona675x wrote:
If you're really interested in getting an answer you should probably consider mailing Hyperion directly [...] Might increase your chances significantly.


Unfortunately, your chances will be the same as here, including A-EON's. Unless they have blacklisted all emails that contain the word 'amiga'!

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 27-Jan-2016 19:09:39
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@Birbo

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But to me he didn't answer the questions in this thread.

Sure he did, he said the plan was to get the x5k stable enough to release & have a core OS for all systems for easy maintenence, other then a few drivers.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 27-Jan-2016 21:35:30
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@Birbo

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Costel is a Developer speaking for himself.


And that's why he uses his personal account as opposed to the corporate account for Hyperion Entertainment:

http://amigaworld.net/userinfo.php?uid=346

Ditto for Tim who also posts under his personal account.

Whether either of them even have access to the corporate account is unknown or at the very least unstated. Sometimes posts under the corporate account are signed by director legal (Ben Hermans), but not by anyone else.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 27-Jan-2016 22:12:43
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Haven't Hyperion already stated that they plan to release one huge bugfix release "when it's done" already? If so, then we already have our answer.

You don't have to like this at all (judging by the number of threads made complaining about lack off updates and news is proof that plenty of people don't) but we simply have to accept it anyway.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 27-Jan-2016 23:01:15
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Haven't Hyperion already stated that they plan to release one huge bugfix release "when it's done" already? If so, then we already have our answer.

Yup & the bottom line is, no one likes to wait.

Answer given, only option now is to do what we're good at here, bitch about it.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 28-Jan-2016 0:41:22
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The continued acceptance of the direction of OS4 is now squarely on the shoulders of the fanboys. Hyperion is a lost cause. Once again they are devoting time and resources to YET ANOTHER Alien hardware platform with all new drivers having to be written and bug fixes and patches to support a new cpu. ONCE AGAIN, like since the days of Eyetech with the overpriced and bugged "Amiga One" (Aka Teron crap) we have a new over priced hardware platform to run os 4 on . WITH NO SOFTWARE. Unless they use legacy classic software on os4 (like i do but even then trying to be productive at all i get grim reaper crashes and hard freezes all the time) there is almost no incentive to purchase a computer worth thousands that cant even use usb2 properly.

Why the fanboy user base has allowed this trend to continue and apologize for it, is beyond me. The best thing to ever happen to the user base has been WINUAE supporting OS4 (And hyperion are fighting that!) They should have released project moana (its not too late) and supported mac ppc machines. But no, instead they release bugged alien over priced hardware with no software to run.

When is the madness and exploitation going to stop?

When will you guys listen to me and others who have reason and know what they speak of? (remember all you fanboys filing abuse reports on me when i said the amiga laptop was a sham? Remember when i got banned for months because i said Bill McEwen, Fleecy and Ainc was a fraud? )

Yet still i see people here defending the insanity. Stop the madness!

And finally if you guys really think "Gallium" "SMP" "multicore" and other $*#&@ fantasies are real you need to wake the hell up .

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 28-Jan-2016 4:00:37
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@pavlor

Quote:
Rose-tinted glasses mode ON

A1222 could be released early this year!

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It could be as soon as two weeks!

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 28-Jan-2016 15:27:49
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@realize

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Stop the madness!


Since when is world of Amiga sane?

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 28-Jan-2016 15:45:09
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@paolone

It's like what number6 said already. I simply asked some year of a speech. Nothing to do with any legality of anything.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 28-Jan-2016 15:48:11
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pavlor wrote:
@realize

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Stop the madness!


Since when is world of Amiga sane?


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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 28-Jan-2016 16:21:02
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@realize

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And finally if you guys really think "Gallium" "SMP" "multicore" and other $*#&@ fantasies are real you need to wake the hell up .


Well It's real on Linux and windows, MacOSX, so maybe you should wake up. Sure it's not available until it's available, and whenever that might be is unknown, and even I see that things get pushed back.

Even simple things like UTF8 support is not happening.

What I think needs to happen is that development on new hardware needs to stop, Hyperion needs to make hard choices, they can't be casing new hardware and trying to improve the OS at the same time. They don't have the resources for it.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 28-Jan-2016 16:32:25
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... I think needs to happen is that development on new hardware needs to stop...


For once I am on Hyperion's (and your) side in this regard.
Tabor is an ugly mistake that will cost Hyperion development time and while it may result in low cost hardware it will perform badly enough to further weaken the regard our community is held in.

Instead of making these choices blindly, it would be nice if Trevor and the others at Aeon let us in on their decision making process before they issue such a big blunder.

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Posted on 28-Jan-2016 17:31:36
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@iggy

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Tabor is an ugly mistake that will cost Hyperion development time and while it may result in low cost hardware it will perform badly enough to further weaken the regard our community is held in.

I don't know, I think most people are unaware that there even is an Amiga community, and those that are aware, a lot of them are impressed that it still exits at all.

My concern is that Tabor is a tacticle error that could result in the demise of A-EON. They need to get it out ASAP, while is can still be sold above cost.

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Posted on 28-Jan-2016 18:30:19
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@iggy

If tabor is cheap enough I'll take tree of them:)

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 28-Jan-2016 19:27:00
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If tabor is cheap enough I'll take tree of them:)


You sound like a New Yorker "iI'll take tree of does".

Yes there is a market if it is cheap enough

@Bison

How quickly this can be released does make a difference.

I expected and probably will get more flames for the negativity.

And it does pain me to be so critical of a project produced by an individual I really think quite highly of.
But if Tabor is released more than a year from now, it will do nothing for Aeon's reputation.

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Posted on 28-Jan-2016 20:16:24
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noXLar wrote:
@iggy

If tabor is cheap enough I'll take tree of them:)


What a void sentence.
What is cheap - $0.02?

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 28-Jan-2016 20:38:49
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@Zylesea

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What is cheap


The more close to p-cubed price (200 USD), the better.

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