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Hypex 
Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 12-Feb-2016 13:58:16
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@realize

I'm sure you did already realize there would be all talk and no answers.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 12-Feb-2016 14:29:03
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@OlafS25

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communication is important when you want to win new users and developers

Hm, pffff. Yes.

Nevertheless I still assume at least Hyperion and A-Eon as well (after the X1000 hype and the Netbook talk) will do "communication" in the form of "press releases" - and that's it, more or less. Or the be more precise: In regards of whatever forthcoming OS and/or hardware developments and improvements.

Showing and propagating of what's already there and can be seen and touched is another part of the story.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 12-Feb-2016 14:49:45
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@cha05e90

that will hardly be enough...

but that is not my problem fortunately

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 12-Feb-2016 18:34:25
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@Thread

I for one and glad they are prioritising porting to the X5000. All other updates can wait. It's a small team after all and Final Edition is working on other machines albeit with some bugs.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 12-Feb-2016 21:46:13
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@BigD
"All other updates can wait."
Just to know...do you use OS4 as your main system ?
Thank you

And as betatesters said, there are daily updates, therefore it should not be just a "X5000/Tabor takes 100% of dev time".

The "problem" is just that there are not publically published (see Cyborg explanations at page 3)

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 13-Feb-2016 13:16:13
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@zzd10h

he does not own AmigaOS at all, neither "Classic" in emulation nor real hardware

He is (for unknown reasons) praising Aeon, Hyperion, Acube for their politics

And he has (of course) the intention to buy new AmigaOS hardware somewhen

Have I forgotten something?

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
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@OlafS25

Thank you, i see...

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 13-Feb-2016 14:11:35
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@OlafS25


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he does not own AmigaOS at all, neither "Classic" in emulation nor real hardware


I own AmigaOS 3.5 and 3.9 and Classic hardware and I am interested in buying a X5000. If AmigaOS still requires further porting work before the X5000 can be released then that is the priority. As far as I can see AmigaOS 4.1 FE works fine on the Sam machines and X1000 so OS updates for those machines are not a priority. Rolling monthly updates on Windows, MacOS, Skype and and PSN etc might have security reasons but as far as the consumer is concerned is a pain in the backside not a blessing

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 13-Feb-2016 15:55:11
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@BigD
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I own AmigaOS 3.5 and 3.9 and Classic hardware and I am interested in buying a X5000.

Why this is so hard to believe?

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 14-Feb-2016 0:12:53
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@ExiE

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Why this is so hard to believe?


It's almost as if half the people on this forum just wish the Amiga would stay an elitist computer for the holy and unwashed few that already have NG systems News flash: if you don't encourage the Amiga classic users to upgrade and take an interest in NG systems then how do you expect the rest of the world to care? This attitude stinks and is basically summarised as, "I gave Hyperion 30 a year ago and I DEMAND monthly updates or I'll scream!"

Just be patient. Give Hyperion and chance and stop moaning that I didn't buy a Sam because I thought they were underpowered or a X1000 because I thought it was too expensive. And no I didn't just buy a copy of AmigaOS 4.1 for the classic because I wouldn't use it because I don't own a PC or classic PPC board. I've got a feeling it would be a waste of time trying to get it to work on my Intel Mac and since I can't be bothered to try MorphOS on my PPC Mac I don't see myself using AmigaOS on non-AmigaOne hardware to be honest. That doesn't mean I'm not interested in the new AmigaOne machines as my classics will die one day and PCs and Macs are not exactly inspiring machines for creative uses.

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 14-Feb-2016 0:34:40
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@BigD

Your classics will die one day? What are they manufactured from? Human tissues and cells? If you take care of them, you will probably die first than your classic Amigas.

For people that use AmigaOS 4.1 on their X1000 as the main, daily basis computer for their needs, yes, they have the right to demand something don't you think? Be patient for what? I'm patient for almost 8 years, if you catch my feeling...

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 14-Feb-2016 0:52:11
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@Phantom

If their systems work and their are no major bugs then I don't see how 30 means that they can demand monthly updates is all. I wasn't clamouring for Boing Bags 1 and 2 in the OS3.9 days, I was just grateful when they arrived. Hyperion have to help A-EON get the X5000 out of the door and I fully understand that updates for other systems might slow down in the interim. The latest AmigaOS is called Final Edition after all. I wouldn't expect massive updates now until AmigaOS4.2 surely?

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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 14-Feb-2016 0:58:54
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Re: Hyperion : why no OS4FE updates since 1 year ?
Posted on 14-Feb-2016 1:10:02
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News flash: if you don't encourage the Amiga classic users to upgrade and take an interest in NG systems then how do you expect the rest of the world to care?

I am quite sure world don't give a damn about next gen Amigas. These computers with AmigaOS system have basically no use for anybody outside Amiga community.

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Just be patient. Give Hyperion and chance...

Only approximate, how many more years do you think would be right?

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Posted on 14-Feb-2016 1:19:54
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@ExiE

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Only approximate, how many more years do you think would be right?


At least wait until they release Amiga OS 4.1 FE for the X5000 and then you'd expect them to back port some improvements/bug fixes to the other machines. However, I don't see that there will be massive improvements until OS4.2 with SMT multicore support so I really don't see why this thread has hit 20 pages to be honest

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Posted on 14-Feb-2016 3:28:45
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@BigD

You sound like a battered housewife that should be "grateful" they have a husband.

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Posted on 14-Feb-2016 5:35:53
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@BigD

What do you know about the bugs -- what they are and how annoying they are or are not to the users? What are we waitig for? What is fixed and tested can be distributed easily and quickly via AmiUpdate. It was a great system when it was used.

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Gone too soon...

 
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Posted on 14-Feb-2016 8:25:32
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@ExiE

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Only approximate, how many more years do you think would be right?


My remains can wait even 10000 years!

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Posted on 14-Feb-2016 8:45:43
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@mbrantley

None of the bugs can be as annoying as someone who wants to buy AmigaOne hardware not being able to. In an ideal world the bugs in one version would be worked on at the same time as the porting to the X5000 but the team is small and for right or wrong my guess is that sales of AmigaOS 4.1 FE have been used to fund the X5000/Tabor ports not bug fixes.

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