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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 25-Apr-2018 20:06:04
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Re:Itec LLC and Cloanto's objection to Hyperion's filing for the BoingBall image (previously both had been granted extensions until April 25, 2018 to respond:
Cloanto's objection
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 26-Apr-2018 15:32:43
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| The pertinent issue would be if Hyperion used Cloanto's Personal Paint to do the straight up Boing Ball or another program.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 26-Apr-2018 16:23:22
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I just post the links and seldom comment on them, but... Reading Itec LLC's objection and Cloanto's objection, it's like they're seeing 2 different things.
I also positively loved Itec section 8: Quote:
the applied for Mark is identical... |
Followed by section 9: Quote:
the applied for Mark so closely resembles... |
Someone please tell Reed Smith's attorneys to choose one thought and stick with it. I really don't care if lawyers can say identical=resembles. It just does not in anything "resembling" the real world.
And yes, I also enjoyed "the Applicant's version is upside down" from Cloanto's objection. heh.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 26-Apr-2018 22:46:52
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All of this "action" before the USPTO has become irrelevant.
These issues are now pending in federal court of the Western District of WA in Seattle.
You would know that if you actually bothered to consult the court documents which are accessible to anybody who cares to get hold of them. _________________ This post reflects the personal opinion of Ben Hermans and not necessarily of Hyperion Entertainment CVBA. |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 27-Apr-2018 1:59:12
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All of this "action" before the USPTO has become irrelevant.... You would know that if you actually bothered to consult the court documents which are accessible to anybody who cares to get hold of them. |
Do you really want to provoke a discussion about contributions to irrelevance?
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 27-Apr-2018 3:15:44
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| I love the Boing Ball and original Amiga checkmark..can't Cloanto and Hyperion flip a coin on who takes what and save alot of money wasted on lawyers _________________ ____________________________ c64-2sids, A1000, A1200T-060@50(finally working!),A4000-CSMKIII ! My Master Miggies- Amiga 1000 & AmigaOne X1000 ! mancave-ramblings X1000 I BELIEVE  |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 27-Apr-2018 16:07:50
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 27-Apr-2018 17:35:35
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You would know that if you actually bothered to consult the court documents which are accessible to anybody who cares to get hold of them.
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Naaah, we'd rather spend our money on products than on Pacer access etc.
Are you allowed to trade again ? And if so, got something to sell ?
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 27-Apr-2018 17:46:12
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and i suspect the hyperion partners would rather be spending money on things other than having to fight cloanto and others undermining their legal rights. as would those of us who want to see our platform not be pushed even further into the ground by this crap.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 27-Apr-2018 17:52:41
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eliyahu wrote: @jorit2
and i suspect the hyperion partners would rather be spending money on things other than having to fight cloanto, amigakit, and others undermining their legal rights. as would those of us who want to see our platform not be pushed even further into the ground by this crap.
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It appears we may not be on the same page here 
I'll await a judgement, by some court, before stating my opinion though.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 27-Apr-2018 19:45:09
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| [EDIT] I don't understand why Hyperion cares for this logo, the most recognizable by the general public of those is the italicized AMIGA logo on classic Amiga cases, along with the checkmark. Those were the glory days. I think they look better too.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 28-Apr-2018 3:49:42
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| @eliyahu
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and i suspect the hyperion partners would rather be spending money on things other than having to fight cloanto and others undermining their legal rights |
The implication being that Hyperion is the victim? |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 28-Apr-2018 4:10:23
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And yes, I also enjoyed "the Applicant's version is upside down" from Cloanto's objection. heh. |
@number6
I admit - it took me a while to see it but it is upside down and tilted counterclockwise.
Exactly as described on item 7.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 28-Apr-2018 8:00:19
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The checkmark was abandoned when cbm died, it has not been in commercial use since then and has been used pretty much as public domain ever since. _________________ B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 28-Apr-2018 9:27:38
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 28-Apr-2018 12:40:37
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dates posted for conference and discovery
Appears to be about a 2 month push back compared to prior dates posted.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 28-Apr-2018 12:46:58
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Are you allowed to trade again ?
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 28-Apr-2018 12:54:18
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 28-Apr-2018 21:02:19
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Hyperion is not banned from trading.
I understand that you are not anybody who checks information before running with it but with a limited bit of research you could find that out.
Try running this through Google translate:
"L'entreprise conserve tous ses droits et obligations".
Don't they teach French in German schools anymore?
https://economie.fgov.be/fr/themes/entreprises/banque-carrefour-des/contenu-de-la-bce/radiation-doffice-suite-au-non
@Jorit: You even quoted the outdated legal provisions :)
Remind me when the "handelsregister" was abolished? It's only been 13 years ago.
I rest my case and I have said everything I had to say about this disinformation.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 28-Apr-2018 21:28:00
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Strange ...
I find this law ... I'm sure you can find this.
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§ 5. Wordt gestraft met een gevangenisstraf van eŽeŽn maand tot zes maanden en met een geldboete van 100 tot 10.000 euro of met eŽeŽn van die straffen alleen : 1˚ hij die een economische activiteit uitoefent nadat de inschrijving in het handelsregister hem werd geweigerd of nadat ze werd doorgehaald; 2˚ hij die drie dagen na de betekening van een in kracht van gewijsde gegaan vonnis of arrest van veroordeling, de hem verboden economische activiteit verder uitoefent.
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