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Karlos 
Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
Posted on 20-Oct-2022 16:19:46
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As much as I love (and am often the cause of) long sojourns far from the topic at hand, does anyone know where the up to date instruction set documentation is for Apollo?

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
Posted on 20-Oct-2022 17:10:05
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No it doesn’t, it means the language of the Franks… that some Frankish tribes later gave name to the country we know as France with a langauge known as French doesn’t mean that Franks spoke French - they were Germannic tribes. Think Frankfurt, not France :)


Well if you want to get that finicky, it's also worth pointing out to Matt that the "Norman French" that English gets so many words from (due to their colonisation of Blighty) isn't French either. ;)

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@Karlos

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@thread

As much as I love (and am often the cause of) long sojourns far from the topic at hand, does anyone know where the up to date instruction set documentation is for Apollo?


I doubt it exists.

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Karlos 
Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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New features without documentation isn't a lot of use.

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@Karlos

Indeed.

You know what’s worse though?

Documentation without an actual product. ;)

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Karlos 
Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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Well that used to be called vapourware back in my day.

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@Karlos

That's very popular in Italy

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@Bosanac

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No it doesn’t, it means the language of the Franks… that some Frankish tribes later gave name to the country we know as France with a langauge known as French doesn’t mean that Franks spoke French - they were Germannic tribes. Think Frankfurt, not France :)


Well if you want to get that finicky, it's also worth pointing out to Matt that the "Norman French" that English gets so many words from (due to their colonisation of Blighty) isn't French either. ;)


Those damn vikings…

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Bosanac 
Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@kolla

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Those damn vikings…


The Viking invasion is by stealth these days.

Flatpak furniture today, burning down our villages tomorrow lol

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@Karlos

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Karlos wrote:
@Bosanac

Anyway, about 64 bit operations on 68080...



Quote:

Karlos wrote:
@thread

As much as I love (and am often the cause of) long sojourns far from the topic at hand, does anyone know where the up to date instruction set documentation is for Apollo?

http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=5¬e=38530

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Hammer 
Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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The Amiga world is a vampire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-r-V0uK4u0

The Amiga is a zombie or the undead i.e. the walking dead.

Imagine, an Amiga accelerator card named the Undead accelerator.


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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@Hammer

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Imagine, an Amiga accelerator card named the Undead accelerator.

Yep. The Apollo cards are less of a Vampire and more of a Re-animator.

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@cdimauro

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cdimauro wrote:

Quote:

Karlos wrote:
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As much as I love (and am often the cause of) long sojourns far from the topic at hand, does anyone know where the up to date instruction set documentation is for Apollo?

http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=5¬e=38530

Dammit. Always problems with Apollo's links. Split in three parts:
http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=5 ampersand note=38530

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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Karlos 
Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@kolla

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Those damn vikings…


The Viking invasion is by stealth these days.

Flatpak furniture today, burning down our villages tomorrow lol


Especially given how combustible our villages will be when they are choc full of flat packed wooden furniture...

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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There's Buffee, the Vampire slayer.

PiStorm follows Phase 5's Blizzard and DCE's Typhoon extreme weather names.

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@Hammer

What's the main difference between Buffee and Pistorm? Kind of JIT?

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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What's the main difference between Buffee and Pistorm? Kind of JIT?


Buffees are custom boards with CPU and RAM onboard - PiStorm uses an attached Raspberry Pi

Buffees use Nonarkitten's own PJIT emulation without a host OS - PiStorm uses either Musashi on Linux, or Emu68 without a host OS on Pi, which to use depends on your needs

Buffee targets at possibly replacing 68000 chips anywhere - PiStorm targets Amiga

Buffee is just CPU and RAM - PiStorm also offer I/O, RTG etc. via the Pi

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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@agami

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The moment this new super language is created, I will happily learn it and insist upon its universal usage, because:
The sooner the entire planet speaks a single language, the better off we'll all be.


Heh, may I suggest you Finnish

Finnish as a world language?
https://www.hagen-schmidt.de/suomi/worldlanguage.html

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Re: Apollo 68080 64-bit operations
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The problem is that no one single language has the vocabulary to cover all the needs - something that require a whole sentence in one language can be summed up in one small single syllable word in another language.


Yes, that is very true hehe :)

Here' e few examples in Finnish:



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