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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 15:06:18
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LOL. You still not understand that I am merely holding a mirror. Mimicking your behaviour.
Sarcasm, cynical staments and blunt harassment.
Problem is that I am better at it then your usual victims.


naaa, you're just someone with a strange fetish for wet farts who needs his daily fix of a big pile of bum cheese, nothing more, nothing less... no need to try to sound sophisticated.

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
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Sarcasm, cynical staments and blunt harassment.
Problem is that I am better at it then your usual victims.


And who would they be?

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 15:55:58
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@Karlos

you want as to switch from ppc
we amiga user use ppc in amiga 27 years since 1997
you should accept that we may not want to resign from something that we use so many years

worse you want us to switch to arm
we already have very good os on arm and don't want to switch to shitty emulator
want switch to arm provide something as good as android
it is your duty

so leave ppc as it is and start working on something new worth use



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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 16:02:57
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I don't want *you* to switch to anything. Carry on using 4.1 on PPC and enjoy.

I want 4.x to move on to something that isn't vapourware for decades at a time and can - if you can even imagine it - maybe attract some new users and developers, rather than sitting mothballed.

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 16:44:56
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Magellan is a software that can be used as filemanager or full desktop

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 16:46:33
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Nobody with any grasp of reality thinks that 4.x will ever be more than a hobbyist platform. I just want more people to be able to use it and have fun with it.

If you were able to think clearly rather than being triggered AF by my not sharing your view of bespoke PPC hardware, you'd see that.

It's sad watching it die a slow death, knowing the effort people have put into it to appease a certain vanity fixation.

Still, updates are appearing for 68K/3.x

3.1.4
3.2

You know, it's funny. It's almost as if there's a hidden message in that versioning...

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 16:50:01
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@Karlos

What i do not understand why it is so important to you what happens with OS4

to me it is as important as a "sack of rice fell over in China"

we have enough options and the chance to conquer the world is not big either

so life would be easier just enjoying what is there now

@geen_naam

why on earth should I be interested to run OS4 somewhere?

you both guys take you and your interests much too important

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Karlos 
Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
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@OlafS25

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What i do not understand why it is so important to you what happens with OS4


Contrary to the opinions of a few, AmigaOS 4.1 is still "teh real" AmigaOS, build upon 3.1. When I was working on it, you can trace the commit history of various sources all the way back to the original team.

With no shade thrown on MorphOS, AROS or any of the numerous compatible / work-alikes, I still think that heritage counts for something and is worth keeping, if for the history alone.

Maybe I am just a sentimental type.

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 17:04:26
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If running 4.1 resolutely only on PPC is all that matters* then sure, QEMU is certainly an option. It probably makes more sense than A1222, that's for sure. You'll be more compatible with existing software for starters.

*I just don't share the view.

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 17:07:14
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@geen_naam

I do not run OS3 anywhere (except for testing) but use my own Aros 68k distribution

screenshot

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 17:08:54
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@Karlos

"Maybe I am just a sentimental type."

yes you are

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 17:24:20
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@Karlos

Currently QEMU sucks on 3D, and hardware acceleration, and FPU code, but make up for it on memory bandwidth.

I was going to set it up, it was lot of hazel, and not sure how easy its to transfer files in and out of it.

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 17:30:11
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@geen_naam

I think I bite my lips more than you do.
It’s not just about the OS, it’s about what apps you can run, he is a huge fan of AMOS Pro, I know.

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 17:38:51
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@geen_naam

if your mental state is so desperate then laugh or cry or both

it is not apolloos, it is my own development older than apolloos, i work on it mostly on winuae because it is easier to update. X86 also exists of course, also ARM or even powerPC but the big advantage of 68k is the huge software base. On 68k you can mix amiga and aros binaries and use them even together

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
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So it's not just 60x FPU emulation that's an issue then? One of the problems I have come across with QEMU is the reliance on softfloat implementations for formal correctness due to some of the more interesting behaviours of PPC.

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 17:40:51
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@NutsAboutAmiga

About whom are you talking now?

Whatever you take please drop it... it harms

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Karlos 
Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
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"Maybe I am just a sentimental type."

yes you are


I know, right? Who'd have thought it.

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Karlos 
Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 17:51:11
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@geen_naam

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I have the feeling that I've landed in a warzone where I cannot distinguish friend from foo.


You landed, opened fire with unprovoked personal insults, make a bunch more baseless inferences and then wonder why you have this confusion.




"Of all the people who labelled me a PPC hater... You're the first."

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 17:52:32
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@OlafS25

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Whatever you take please drop it... it harms


its nothing to be ashamed about :

https://www.ultimateamiga.com/index.php?topic=9701.0

I’m also after all a huge Amos Pro fan, why do you think I wrote Amos Kittens.

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Re: 32-bit PPC on FPGA
Posted on 16-Feb-2024 17:57:12
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but why do you think I am a big fan of it? It is included next to a number of compilers, next to many other apps, games and so on. It sounded a little strange how you wrote it, negative. Perhaps I understood you wrong. I am not a native speaker in english

my favorite part with it is configuring magellan, the hidden part

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