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EntilZha 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 1:01:52
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@jahc

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what clockspeeds are the 750GX available in?


For the A1, it's 800 MHz.

I did some Quake benchmarks on the thing (all in 320x240, to get higher numbers which always looks better ):

7451@800 MHz: 112 fps
7447@1.1GHz: 150 fps
750GX@800: 187 fps

It's definitely a cool CPU, just missing Altivec...

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Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 1:04:29
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@ssolie

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Resizing windows opaquely still flashes like crazy as well although that is being addressed with new BOOPSI features


That isn't really true for MUI. Reaction seems to always clear and redraw the screen, while MUI can do that without redraw, and hence looks much nicer when resizing.

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I also don't like the lack of video overlay


Last time I checked the Voodoo supported this, and Bil or Joshua is working on adding this to the Radeon

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EntilZha 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 1:04:43
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@swoodall

It's L2 cache, not L1.

Also, the 74x5 has half a megabye as well (Apollo cores)...

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swoodall 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 1:13:36
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@EntilZha

Yes, thanks. I decided to leave my errors there as a warning to others how addlepated you can look when you post with insufficient sleep....

@thread

I would like to hear more from users who have tried both AOS4 and Morphos and would like to compare them. What does Ambient feel like, how configurable is it, what new MUI features are neat, how easy to setup to develop for MOS vs OS4, etc? Are there any users of both that would like to compare more?

Scott Woodall

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JKD 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 1:23:46
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@Acill

Boo!

Best thing about uA1 - all them cutesy cases it fits in

I'd say wait and see for the next release of OS4pre so it's more mature on the uA1 and indeed there are more user reports about the uA1 in the field. There are others more qualified to comment on this opinion...I'm just a born pessimist.

Me..I'm waiting on the impossible dream, bundle of A1 and OS4 to come down by $200....like that's gonna happen with the US economy

Steve

P.S. You have too much money..Dualie G5, Plasma...and now this. Have another kid or something J/K

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Anonymous 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
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@JKD

I was just testing the water. My Peg is sold and I now have $1000 to play with, but so far from the welcome I got in the AW chat room I think I wont get one. I may just invest more in my G5 dual Pmac.

Thanks for the help those of you did give me. Here. I did find it helpfull.

 
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Bodie 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 1:49:57
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@Acill

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but so far from the welcome I got in the AW chat room I think I wont get one.


sigh

There goes one potential OS4 user due to the egos of some .

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sibbi 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 3:30:36
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@Acill

Afaik, it was mostly one person that had negative comments, the rest were there to help.

Similarly to how quick he was to pass judgement, you're doing exactly the same thing now it seems.

Anyway, if you're going to let one negative experience in a chat channel dictate your purchase of a computer system, I doubt that's a smart idea.

No offense meant.

In general:

People need to get over this red vs. blue nonsense.

The war is over, there is no winner, and there are certainly enough casualties already.

A lot was said, by both parties, usually just by a few loud individuals from each "side".

let bygones be bygones.

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cecilia 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 3:52:44
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@Acill

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Acill wrote:
@JKD

I was just testing the water. My Peg is sold and I now have $1000 to play with, but so far from the welcome I got in the AW chat room I think I wont get one..
please tell me why one persons' selfish reaction is more powerful than all the nice people who have been trying to help you all day?

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jahc 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 4:02:17
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@last portion of the thread

Its okay, the person who was a bit negative apologised, and the rest of us asked him to stay, so AscII is going to give the channel a chance.. hes going to idle for awhile and see how it goes. :)

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kindergip 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 4:18:42
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Posts: 312
From: Canada

@jahc

Heh, send him over to #AmigaIRC - you know what will happen there.

I myself have never let that sort of string pulling lull me about
what is actually happening. An Amigan that thinks to spend money
on his dual G5 system rather than pursue the Amiga is perhaps best
left to his own devices.

I no longer hand hold. There were moving testimonials and good
solid information offered. I'd rather be hanging with a bunch
of solid Amigans that are committed to what we have than trying
to persuade some nervous nellies to join the party.

Until the order level approaches what? 50,000?!? there will be no
cost reductions. As for features and capabilities of the OS,
the reality is, when it is done. It is very useable right now.
I certainly am not about to rehash the last 10 years of advocacy
over pre-emptive multitasking or the lack of memory protection.

I get my Amiga back from pre-release jitters in 7 seconds, I have written
no scripts to restore me to where I was but I do have autosave on for
anything I am doing. I know how to use an Amiga, warts and all.

We can certainly be proud of what we have. As for assholes in newsgroups
or chatrooms or forums, what's your point :^)

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Anonymous 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 5:13:54
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As of now I am holding off and taking a look at what comes to be. The price i was quoted for an A1 micro was just a shock for me. I can see spending $899 now for just the board. It looks great and sounds great. You are all very supportive. I want to thank you for that gesture. I have been an Amiga user and owner fron 1986 to the time the Pegasos II first came out. I am now deciding if this is the true way to go, and before I spend all the money I have left on yet another "new" system I need to be sure its what I want. As of now its not, but who knows by the time the next production run is over and they are available again. I may wait for OS4 to finish as well.

 
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Anonymous 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 7:15:52
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@Acill

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience on the chatroom. I really thought people had got over all that stuff.

Dave.

 
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MikeB 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 8:45:37
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@Acill

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I would like an XE IF and only IF all those hardware problems are not a problem with the board I get. I would like an XE IF and only IF all those hardware problems are not a problem with the board I get.


AFAIK, Mr Hardware still sells a few hardware fixed models. However IMO nobody can ever guarantee to you that there may not still be some smaller bugs left undiscovered, likewise with regard to the Pegasos2,, even our dear classic Amigas and far more widely tested general PC motherboards.

Why not test before you buy a system at the upcoming Amiga East Show, on May 28th and 29th in New Work city? I plan to be there as well.

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have a soundblaster live in my Pegasos so I dont care if the audio is dead on it.


The soundchip was already removed a long time ago.

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MikeB 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 9:01:11
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@Acill

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I was just testing the water. My Peg is sold and I now have $1000 to play with, but so far from the welcome I got in the AW chat room I think I wont get one. I may just invest more in my G5 dual Pmac.


Please don't judge an entire community solely on the basis of the behaviour of a few individuals. For instance I have personally been treated badly by some MorphOS supporters mainly for being a vivid Amiga supporter, but at AmiWest you and I did have a nice, peaceful and informative chat toghether, while I tested your Pegasos system.

Jürgen Schober told me he was even banned from a MorphOS chat channel two years ago for organizing those early 'OS4 on Tour' events! Would it really be fair of him to judge all Pegasos users on the basis of a few?

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xeron 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 9:24:08
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@Acill

I was just reading through this thread for the first time and was pleased that nobody was trolling, and that nobody was gloating about the unfortunate circumstances that lead you to enquire about the uA1. I'm sorry that someone on IRC has behaved badly towards you, and I want you to know that their behaviour in no way reflects the feelings of the majority.

I'm glad you are open minded about OS4 and the A1, and I wish you happy computing whether you get an A1, or decide to give up and get a Mac.

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RedMelons 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 9:24:24
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From: Merrie Olde England

@ssolie

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The XE however, works perfectly once the h/w patches are installed so I wouldn't be worried about picking one up second hand. Russ at Mr. Hardware Computers is the only authorized US dealer capable of doing the XE patches from what I understand.


Has anybody in the UK had the XE hardware fixes done? It seems strange if users on Eyetech's doorstep can't get their AmigaOne's fixed, but customers of dealers in other countries can

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Georg 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 12:05:31
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@Rogue

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That isn't really true for MUI. Reaction seems to always clear and redraw the screen, while MUI can do that without redraw, and hence looks much nicer when resizing.


With some little tricks it is possible to make boopsi gadgets not flicker during solid window resizing. One uses a do-nothing backfill hook for the window and a special custom boopsi gadget which backfills all the area *around* the normal boopsi gadgets. And the boopsi gadgets themselves must make sure to paint each and every pixel in the gadget box. Avoiding overpainting gfx ops as much as possible.

But in general the MUI way (*not* using boopsi gadgets which are "run" by Intuition) is much better anyway.

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Bodie_CI5 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 12:18:16
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@Acill

Which ever way you go, don't leave us!

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ikir 
Re: Thinking of going for a Micro A1
Posted on 20-Jan-2005 12:20:14
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@Theodosius

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Which ever way you go, don't leave us!

I agree

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