So I have been thinking about doing a new A1200 build some point this year, (i got to wait for A1200.net to get me the Cd32 addition case) but have been debating about what to put in it, the new 68K+ platforms are all offering their own unique features and qualities,

Pi5 / mini x86 self build emulation system

Good Points
Run my fav distro Amikit XE
Have access to Rabbit Hole / Other apps
Run other emulator on it / (QEMU AmigaOs4 as example)
The Fastest system
Could be cheapest system

Bad Points
DIY, build it your self, hardware and software
Dont have access to some of the custom features of other platform
Not 100% accurate
Not supporting other efforts

Kinda have it already on my PC

My Original plan, and likely the one I'm still most likely to do, so I can have more freedom on what I can do with the system and what feature I want to add to the platform. Plus this if I go this very high end route would be the only system able to run a fast emulated AmigaOS4 system.

Vampire V4 / Apollo v4

Good Points
FPGA system, much more accurate
Access to 68080, SAGA, ApolloOS
Supporting a cool Amiga effort 

Bad Points
Cost is a bit high
Slowest system
Some software issue I’v heard

I always liked the goals of this project and the What If, Motoroal kept developing the 68K platform its presents. The only thing that slightly put me off it was the price and software support (the software support seem to have improved in terms of stabilities, which is good to see.

A1200NG

Good Points
Likely Easiest DIY effort for A1200 system
Access to Amibench
Loads of new Amiga apps and software or setup ready to go
Looks to have good dev support

Bad Points
Bit pricier than a self build could be
Emulation, not 100% accurate
Not as fast / powerful as a self build could be

The newest choice / platform on this list from Amigakit, I mean its kinda what my original plan I was going to be, but its all setup and ready to go. It very tempting choice, I wish the system was a little cheaper and faster, as I feel a self build could be done cheaper, however you are supporting one of the few manufactures/stores left in the Amiga scene. Plus the software you get loads of classic Amiga apps updated and a very promising Amibench OS developments.

A1200 + Pistorm

Good Points
Could go complete Re-A1200 level 
100% original hardware
Pistorm Speeds
Build would be farily easy

Bad Points
Some software issue
Not as fast as emulation can be
Costs

Pistorm is an amazing addition to the Amiga scene and gives you a super fast Amiga. Plus there is something about still having original hardware in your machine.

PocketStorm / Amicube F1200 / Minimig + Pistorm

Good Points
Cheaper FPGA than Vampire
Most are in development stages, may need to wait

Bad Points
Cost could still be higher than Self build
Not as fast as emulation can be
Still be a bit DIY
Most are in development stages, may need to wait

A very new idea has been to combine FPGA with a Pistorm to give you a super fast and importantly can be a fairly cheap Amiga.

The A1200 (retro games ltd)

Good Points
Complete made and ready system

Bad Points
Unknown release date
Cost might be high

So finally i could just not both with the build and just get Retro Game ltd offering, if it happens.

So as you can see, the Amiga world is far from not having choices, its kinda amazing and I wish to thank all the devs who have made all these choice so competitive with one another. So which platform would you do?

https://poll-maker.com/poll5460175x01A84740-162

Last edited by amigang on 10-Apr-2025 at 11:36 AM.
Last edited by amigang on 10-Apr-2025 at 11:35 AM.

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@amigang

pistorm is piece of shit that changes your amiga into mouse and keyboard interface for rpi.
which is stupid waste of time and money
because amiga mouse and keyboard was copied form pc.

If you really want fast 68k amiga use vampire.

@ppcamiga1

You don't know to read very well do you?

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@ppcamiga1

here we go again....

@ppcamiga1 The Vampire and PiStorm accomplish the same goal differently whereas the PiStorm in an A1200 case with a keyboard provide the Amiga experience we enjoyed in the 80s and 90s.

In this century, the PiStorm and the MiniMig (and their derivatives) have done more for the Amiga market than anything else. Had the community rallied around Amithlon back in the day instead of all the nonsense around it being on x86, the Amiga community would undoubtedly be at least a magnitude larger than it is, possibly two.

@amigang

I’ll take whatever can run AmigaOS classic (3.2), AOS4.x, and MorphOS.

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michalsc wrote: @ppcamiga1 here we go again....

Unfortunately, you can do nothing. It's the poor, gray life of a Hamster:

@ppcamiga1

It does?? How does it do that? Please enlighten us

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I wonder if the A1200 Reloaded will see the light of day?

https://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/Commodore_A1200_Reloaded

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@AmigaMac

I had completely forgotten that system had been proposed.

IMO given nothing has been seen on the ACA 1240/1260 cards in last couple of years and competitors have gotten "rival" pure 68K chi products out against this (Trinity, TF, Warp) that the boats been missed and the markets not big enough for another product.

But I could easily be wrong.

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@Amiboy

I would love to see it reach the market. It's good that the A1200 is getting some innovative attention these days.

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@ppcamiga1

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ppcamiga1 wrote: @amigang pistorm is piece of shit that changes your amiga into mouse and keyboard interface for rpi. which is stupid waste of time and money because amiga mouse and keyboard was copied form pc. If you really want fast 68k amiga use vampire.

False.

PiStorm32-RPi-Emu68 is like a faster Blizzard PPC with BVision RTG without Amiga-related PPC tax https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=462

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ACA1240/1260 is currently available on the website of Individual Computers:

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/index.php/en/33/items/aca1240-1260-now-in-regular-sales.html

The ACA1260 will be used to show AGA demos at this years Revision demoparty in Germany.

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Choice is a good problem to have. Well, at least for those that don't end up stuck with indecision.

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I forgot about this project http://www.amigaclub.be/projects/amiga1200plus

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@AmigaMac

I think we need produce some new batches of AGA custom chips.. maybe asking HP? (which has produced some Amiga 1200 chips at its time)

@AmigaMac

That's an amazing concept!!

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Had also forgotten that project existed too!

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@g.bude

Definitely!

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