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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known
Posted on 17-Feb-2006 17:21:16
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@tonyw

Very small statment, I never knew what "which" did, now I know, and it's a brilliant idea!

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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known
Posted on 17-Feb-2006 17:41:47
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@tonyw

re command history thingy:

Comment out tooltype NOHISTORY in ASyncWB's icon. The default has sensibly been changed to not record everything you type (perhaps Microsoft would like to take notes)

re USB thingy:

My USB flash drive which worked perfectly under Update 3 does not mount under Update 4 unless it is inserted before the USB stack is started. If you put it in afterwards, most of the time it flickers on/off in the MSD commodity (ctrl-alt-m), although it does work occasionally.

Chris

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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known
Posted on 17-Feb-2006 18:08:07
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@all

> So, what cards are currently supported with Warp3D as of update4?
> Voodoo cards as well as ATI Radeon models 7000, 7200, 7500, 9000, 9200 and 9250.

I tried both my Voodoo3 and my Radeon9250, but ALL warp3d software I tried will either crash, freeze, freeze on exit, or produce serious rendering errors. (I tried warpview, glquake, quake2, wipeout, gearsdemo, warptest and glsokoban.)

I haven't heard any reports about the new Warp3D working like it should either.

Can anyone confirm the new warp3d works on their system?

Kind regards,

Dennis

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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known
Posted on 17-Feb-2006 19:13:02
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Thanks a lot Stephen_Robinson & Xenic!

I'm happy to say it was just because I had an old version of Mixer. Thanks to
Davey for Mixer too, of course.

Downloaded and ran it and now audio is fine again! Yay!!! Also just got a
Wireless LAN setup so I'm doubly happy! Thanks to AmigaKit for the really
quick delivery. It works a charm.

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@Steady

Glad to be of Service. Shame my Bloomin CD-drive has just gone and died on me, second one too, Hmmm.

No one else with a in Antec Aria case got similar complaints or is just one of those things...?

Also I seem to have a USB drive problem, but I'll have a play around first to see if I can fix it, or find out more.

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Such problems?

 
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Posted on 17-Feb-2006 21:12:37
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@Stephen_Robinson

> Didn't have much time last nite, but it seemed that keyshow display wasn't
> changing when I pressed the shift/alt buttons, I'm sure it use too...
> Hmm... probably need to check that one.

KeyShow can no longer be used with the keyboard, only with the mouse, because
its a virtual keyboard now :)

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Posted on 17-Feb-2006 21:30:55
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@TetiSoft

Quote:
KeyShow can no longer be used with the keyboard, only with the mouse, because
its a virtual keyboard now


Excellent stuff!

Rigo: I guess your touch screen works with this!

Cheers,
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Posted on 17-Feb-2006 21:33:38
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@TMTisFree

> Another thing: the file 'partition.g.main'
> is installed to Sys:classes/ and not in
> Sys:classes/gadgets/ where is the
> 'partition.gadget'.
>
> Solution: move it

Gluecode files (#?.?.main) are searched in LIBS: and CLASSES: but not in
CLASSES:Gagdgets/, when moving that file Media Toolbox will probably no longer
work?

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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known
Posted on 17-Feb-2006 21:41:49
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@wegster

Having problems with printing graphics. With update3 using:

printer.device 51.11 (18.12.05)
parallel.device 50.4 (18.7.04)
a1parallel.device 51.4 (26.10.05)
HP_DeskJet_690C (30.11.1999) (the printer driver)

I managed to print graphics (for example jpeg pictures with Multiview) with no
problems but had severe problems with AWeb printing. It did a narrow horizontal
strip of pure black. Only way to get Aweb to print correctly was to change to
8bit screen and change to very-old HP550C printer driver. With OS3.9 I had made
a program which printed out a large bitmap with the strip printing technique
perfectly. In OS4 the same program has always printed only the first strip.

Now with OS4upd4 and using the provided drivers in it:

printer.device 51.11 (18.12.05)
a1parallel.device 51.4 (26.10.05)
HP_DeskJet_690C (29.9.1999) (is this older one?)

I print using Multivew and get somewhat good result in the top part of the
picture (about one third). Then there comes a line of odd characters (seem to be
the higher part of the ASCII table like graphic marks, smileys etc), may be a
form feed and the printing continues with the picture. Now AWeb can print with
this driver more correctly but these odd lines of characters come with a regular
interval (maybe from strip printing?)

So what's the problem with this printing?

Marko

Using A1XE-800, OS4upd4 (fresh install), HP690C printer

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Posted on 17-Feb-2006 21:56:39
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[Removed an answer which was already present. Sorry.]

Last edited by TetiSoft on 17-Feb-2006 at 10:14 PM.

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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known
Posted on 17-Feb-2006 22:12:37
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@TetiSoft

Quote:
The remapping from parallel.device to a1parallel.device is commented out
by accident in DEVS:NSDPatch.cfg, and when you didnt select "Use custom device"
and "a1parallel.device" in Prefs/Printer printer.device will default to use
parallel.device which fails because its not there...

Yes. I know. I have been posting similar in other threads.

Quote:
Delete parallel.device, change NSDPatch.cfg, select a1parallel.device in
Prefs/Printer, reboot, then a1parallel.device should work.

On cold boot I open PrinterPrefs. It contains a default file "acquired" from
env: I change some settings and save. I "cold start". Same default file from
env: is there. If I choose "last saved" I recover my settings.
Note:After boot and starting 68k PrinterPrefs I see that the file
SYS:prefs/env-archive/printer.prefs is NOT equal to the file ENV:sys/printer.prefs
In addition: one user (at least) has reported a DSI on changing from b&w printing
to color in PrinterPrefs. DSI task "Nicole" which refers to the graphic of a
woman named "Nicole" at the right of tab#3.

#6

Last edited by number6 on 17-Feb-2006 at 10:16 PM.
Last edited by number6 on 17-Feb-2006 at 10:13 PM.

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Posted on 17-Feb-2006 22:22:56
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@number6

> On cold boot I open PrinterPrefs. I contains a default file "acquired" from
> env: I change some settings and save. I "cold start". Same default file from
> env: is there. If I choose "last saved" I recover my settings.

TurboPrint installed? IIRC it messes with the prefs, and my 7.x version
is incompatible to even OS3.9 which introduced printer.device units 1 to 9...

> Note:After boot and starting PrinterPrefs I see that the file in my
> SYS:prefs/env-archive/printer.prefs is NOT equal to the file ENV:sys/printer.prefs
> In addition: one user (at least) has reported a DSI on changing from b&w printing
> to color in PrinterPrefs. DSI task "Nicole" which refers to the graphics of a
> woman named "Nicole" at the right of tab#3.

Prefs/Printer is the last remaining 68k prefs editor from OS3.9, its buggy
and we dont have its sources. I've rewritten it, had to start from the OS3.1
(non-ReAction) sources, the only thing still missing is the print preview
picture (Nicole). When its done...

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Posted on 17-Feb-2006 22:25:26
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@blmara

Quote:
Now AWeb can print with
this driver more correctly but these odd lines of characters come with a regular
interval (maybe from strip printing?)

I don't think Andy (Broadblues) ever claimed print was working as hoped in
AWeb APL lite. He is certainly free to correct me on this.
System printing -will- print web pages under Voyager 3.2. I have successfully
done this under both update#3 and now under update#4.

#6

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Posted on 17-Feb-2006 22:33:05
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@blmara

> Having problems with printing graphics. With update3 using:
>
> printer.device 51.11 (18.12.05)
> parallel.device 50.4 (18.7.04)
> a1parallel.device 51.4 (26.10.05)
> HP_DeskJet_690C (30.11.1999) (the printer driver)
>
> I managed to print graphics (for example jpeg pictures with Multiview) with no
> problems but had severe problems with AWeb printing. It did a narrow horizontal
> strip of pure black. Only way to get Aweb to print correctly was to change to
> 8bit screen and change to very-old HP550C printer driver. With OS3.9 I had made
> a program which printed out a large bitmap with the strip printing technique
> perfectly. In OS4 the same program has always printed only the first strip.
>
> Now with OS4upd4 and using the provided drivers in it:
>
> printer.device 51.11 (18.12.05)
> a1parallel.device 51.4 (26.10.05)
> HP_DeskJet_690C (29.9.1999) (is this older one?)
>
> I print using Multivew and get somewhat good result in the top part of the
> picture (about one third). Then there comes a line of odd characters (seem to be
> the higher part of the ASCII table like graphic marks, smileys etc), may be a
> form feed and the printing continues with the picture. Now AWeb can print with
> this driver more correctly but these odd lines of characters come with a regular
> interval (maybe from strip printing?)
>
> So what's the problem with this printing?

No printer here which works without TurboPrint so I can only guess.
Does switching back to the Deskjet driver from update 3 help?
If not, please test if using printtofile.device instead of a1parallel.device
and then copying the output file to PAR: makes a difference.
When that also doesnt help try the old 68k version of printer.device,
I'm hoping that this doesnt fix it because we dont have its sourcecode...

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Posted on 17-Feb-2006 22:34:53
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@TetiSoft

> On cold boot I open PrinterPrefs. I contains a default file "acquired" from
> env: I change some settings and save. I "cold start". Same default file from
> env: is there. If I choose "last saved" I recover my settings.

Quote:
TurboPrint installed? IIRC it messes with the prefs, and my 7.x version
is incompatible to even OS3.9 which introduced printer.device units 1 to 9...

I'll test this evening by disabling some things. I have someone else to test with
nearly identical hardware/software combo. I'll post back here with my version #'s
and anything else I feel is relevant.

> Note:After boot and starting PrinterPrefs I see that the file in my
> SYS:prefs/env-archive/printer.prefs is NOT equal to the file ENV:sys/printer.prefs
> In addition: one user (at least) has reported a DSI on changing from b&w printing
> to color in PrinterPrefs. DSI task "Nicole" which refers to the graphics of a
> woman named "Nicole" at the right of tab#3.

Quote:
Prefs/Printer is the last remaining 68k prefs editor from OS3.9, its buggy
and we dont have its sources. I've rewritten it, had to start from the OS3.1
(non-ReAction) sources, the only thing still missing is the print preview
picture (Nicole). When its done...

You understand then why I can not have confidence in any settings I might make
and save. I have an idea for an intermediate fix. If successful (after I test it),
I will let you know.

btw-Big thanks! for your confirmation and all of your help.

#6


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Posted on 17-Feb-2006 22:39:35
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@TetiSoft

Quote:
I'm hoping that this doesnt fix it because we dont have its sourcecode...

Please see my post above regarding my current understanding of the AWeb situation
regarding printing.
I am able to print just fine with Voyager 3.2 under update#4 with the correct
setup we have discussed.

#6

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@Steady

Thanks for your custom - much appreciated. Glad the AmigaOne Wireless card arrived safely.

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@Raziel

> If i type "date" in a shell, i get
>
> 17 08:51:50 2006
>
> which could be a bug, because i don't see what month is, do you?

Is that the AmigaOS Date command or some Unix stuff? ("Which Date").
When its C:Date, which language and country is selected in locale prefs?

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@number6

Quote:
I don't think Andy (Broadblues) ever claimed print was working as hoped in AWeb APL lite.


There's an outstanding bug with printing under OS4 update 3. I haven't tried under update 4 to see if it works now.
http://bugz.naff.dk/show_bug.cgi?id=204

Chris

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