@ackcontrls

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Anyone accusing me of copying OS4 sources to give to Amiga Inc., will be hearing from my lawyer as there is absolutely no truth in that at all.

I hope you are not suing people because of speculating or rumoring?
We just dont know a #### about what is happening behind the scenes.

@dirigent

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Indeed, let's see how Hyperion will respond. #6's quote of Alan Redhouse above seems to indicate that there is an interpretation of reality in which AI was insolvent at one point, so that afterwards Hyperion and Eyetech would have been the owners of the OS.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post.
My next point is in post #92.
Please understand I am on dialup, so I have not read this .pdf.
Yet people are claiming of statements therein referring to XE/SE not being Amigaone.
Therefore I pasted part of Fleecy's post that seemingly claims quite the contrary.
He said it was the "final word" and asked us to report anything different.
Therefore, if Bill has said otherwise from what Fleecy has posted, I asked basically "are we to report Bill then?" If so, to whom?

Fleecy quote:
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If you read anything else, it is not true and you should report it to us and the parties are mis-representing Amiga Inc in public.

(source post #17 here)

#6

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@billt

That would be a completely retarded thing to do. Adam may not be very good at meeting deadlines, but I don't think he's that much of an idiot. I also think he's being played like a flute. Consider this:

1. Amiga Inc keeps on denying manufacturers licenses so that Hyperion can't sell OS4
2. Miraculously, someone decides to go ahead and make a board anyway, and partners with Hyperion to market their OS. Soon after, Hyperion announces the availability of OS4 for classics, and this appears in the "news" section of the hardware partner. The partner doesn't make classic addons, so it sounds like this may be a loophole that will allow OS4 to be sold in spite of Amiga Inc.
3. Amiga Inc partners with a hardware person who can best be described as a wet-behind-the-ears idealist, who also has a history of not being able to deliver.
4. Amiga Inc sues Hyperion so that they can no longer use the name Amiga in their OS (thereby consigning them to the same heap as atheos, brix, centos, menuetos, nachos, newos, syllable, etc...)
5. The idealist does his thing and fails to deliver yet again
6. Amiga Inc, expecting this to happen, cuts him loose for breach of contract.
7. Amiga Inc declares the classic line dead once and for all, puts a nice eulogy in their website.

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@MobbyG

I think we can add a new entry to the shoot yourself in the foot jokes.

Amiga - You want to shoot yourself in the foot, but you bought a gun that you can't buy any bullets for. By the time they start making the bullets, you discover that your gun doesn't work any more and you can't buy a replacement. Years later, someone builds a compatible gun, but it turns out that owning bullets is now illegal.

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@smartroad

Thought it would be this one http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/doors/the+end_20042686.html

@ackcontrls

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will be hearing from my lawyer

Are you serious! No-one can successfully sue anyone for anything in this community.

It's all just crap!

Btw - would you be calling jens schoenfeld or Ben Hermans as a character witness?

@ackcontrls

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ackcontrls wrote: @billt Quote: There's a few people hypothesizing that Adam may have copied the OS4 sources and given them to Amiga Inc. Before we go any further down that road, can we see some proof of that? Anyone accusing me of copying OS4 sources to give to Amiga Inc., will be hearing from my lawyer as there is absolutely no truth in that at all. Adam

Jens said you owe him a lot of money and are an untrustworthy person.

I believe him.

Will you refute his allegations here or will you sue him?

If not, why? Is he telling the truth?

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@Raffaele

The only thing(s) I know:
(Only!) Eyetech held a license to sell OS4.0 in conjunction with Mobo's designated AmigaOnes. No one other then Eyetech has ever been able to buy OS4.0 from Hyperion. Hyperion does not sell hardware. So, if anyone has done anything wrong in that respect it's Eyetech. And AInc. was well aware of this situation, but nothing to prevent or even stop this.

Hyperion may very well mention the possible uses of OS4.0 on its website (and other means of reaching a wider audience), but does not supply unless one can produce a license from AInc., which no one has been able to get. Must have run out of paper or pencils.

Use of trademarks and -symbols? They're everywhere on any 'female friend'-related website. Little or nothing has been done to prevent or stop that...

If Hyperion did not see this one coming then they're not worth their salt, which I doubt. Heavily.

Just my, errm, is this worth anything?

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@nicholas who said Quote:

The whole OS4/AmigaOne debacle, from start to finish. It's hillarious.

I think I now see why you find this so hilarious. It's safe to say you aren't the sort of Amigan I want to talk to.

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@ChrisH

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ChrisH wrote: @nicholas who said Quote: The whole OS4/AmigaOne debacle, from start to finish. It's hillarious. I think I now see why you find this so hilarious. It's safe to say you aren't the sort of Amigan I want to talk to.

Stop talking to me then you big girls blouse.

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@ChrisH

I think it was blatantly obvious to the rest of us that nicholas is one of the last few sad individuals trying to keep the old Red vs Blue thing alive. His comments come as no surprise to me.

@CodeSmith

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CodeSmith wrote: @ChrisH I think it was blatantly obvious to the rest of us that nicholas is one of the last few sad individuals trying to keep the old Red vs Blue thing alive. His comments come as no surprise to me.

I find it hilarious that it's so easy to wind up some people. Without trying too.

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Just one thing i would like to know .. is Hyperion located in the USA ?

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Not if OS4 isn't based on the original source, which is what I've been saying for a couple of years now.

Although IANAL, that argument is completely groundless (legally speaking) since the main OS4 developers have had access to, seen & in fact used (however briefly) OS3.x source code. Even if no OS3.x code remains, OS4 is still legally tainted by OS3.

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I did see that in at least one document it seems Amiga, inc are suing Hyperion VOF... Who are Hyperion VOF? I thought Hyperion had been bought out...

Hyperion Entertainment VOF however were the people who headed up the development of OS4 and I dont see the company name Hyperion Entertainment VOF on the document I can access (Bill McEwens statement).

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@moderators

May i suggest some heavy moderating in this thread?

it's littered with accusations, fud and attacks.

Must be the least moderated thread ever here on AW.

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@ackcontrls
"Anyone accusing me of copying OS4 sources to give to Amiga Inc., will be hearing from my lawyer as there is absolutely no truth in that at all."

Why do you think people should belive you ? When you team up with criminals like this, ofcourse you will also get a bad word.

And suing people? What does that solve ??

@nicholas

I know its the "Perfect Storm"

would else could have possibly went wrong.

@Toaks

Why moderate this ?? Please let the free discussion continue, I think people dont like the lying Amiga Inc. anymore.

@nicholas

you have said many silly things , you have been restricted here before and my guess is that you will be again.

Shouldnt you just port abiword to aros instead of trying to occupy a thread like this?...

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