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pavlor 
How fast is Doom on your Amiga?
Posted on 12-Sep-2008 14:03:01
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The DOOM benchmark

1) get latest version of Doom for your OS:

ADoom (68k)
DoomAttack (68k)
ADoom (WarpOS)
ADoom (MorphOS)
prboom (OS4) - Capehill's port of prboom
prboomgl - play Doom with the magic of OpenGL...


2) get shareware WAD (demo3 from Shareware WAD is needed)

Doom (PC) - installation required
ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom/doom19s.zip

Join the two archive-parts "DOOM_19.1" and DOOM_19.2" and then use unzip.


3) run Doom in CLI

eg:
ADoom -forcedemo -timedemo demo3

screen mode: 320x200, Graphic Detail: High; Screen Size: two steps below maximum (i.e., the status bar and one level of border)


Results:

number of realtics
the screen displays "2134 gameticks in xxx realticks"
lower means faster


Post your results, configuration of your computer (machine, CPU, GFX, RAM, OS etc.) and version of your Doom port.


example (my machines...):

Realtks avg.fps

198 ------ 377 ------ WinUAE 1.5.0, 68040 JIT, RTG (Core 2 Quad Q6600-2400 MHz, GeForce 8600GT) ADoom 1.3
930 ------ 80.3 ------ QEMU 0.8.2 (Core 2 Quad Q6600-2400 MHz, GeForce 8600GT)
821 ------ 41.0 ------ DosBox 0.72 (Core 2 Quad Q6600-2400 MHz, GeForce 8600GT)
5022 ------ 14.8 ------ Aranym 0.9.6, 68040 JIT? (Core 2 Quad Q6600-2400 MHz, GeForce 8600GT) PMDoom 0.55 No SFX
7549 ------ 9.9 ------ NoteStar NP-740, 80486SX-25 MHz, 4 MB RAM, VGA No SFX
7748 ------ 9.6 ------ Amiga 1200, Blizzard 1230IV-50 MHz, 8 MB Fast, AGA (DblPAL) ADoom 1.3 No SFX



More info about the "Doom benchmark"
http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/misc/doombench.html


Have fun!!

Edit: wrong path to the shareware DOOM...
Edit: link to the prboom added
Edit: link to the new prboom port, some more info
Edit: Installation instructions for shareware Doom
Edit: link to the prboomgl added

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Hypex 
Re: How fast is Doom on your Amiga?
Posted on 12-Sep-2008 16:12:45
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@pavlor

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Doom (PC) - installation required


Does this have to be done on a PC? Unarc reports errors says it is corrupt. Unzip doesn't get any futher. The one WAD I managed to extract out of it just throws errors about a file it can't find.

BTW if these were compiled from the Linux version then where's the Linux files? We should be using those.

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Re: How fast is Doom on your Amiga?
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@pavlor

AmigaOne XE/G4, MPC7457 @ 1000Mhz 512K level 2 cache, Sapphire Radeon 9200 256MB*, 1GB Micron registered PC133, Amiga OS 4.1.

ADoom with JIT disabled:

timed 2134 gametics in 1723 realtics ( 43.3 fps)


ADoom with JIT enabled:

timed 2134 gametics in 486 realtics (153.7 fps)


ADoomWos:

timed 2134 gametics in 175 realtics (426.80 fps)

*The Radeon is currently limited to 128MB under OS4.1.

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pavlor 
Re: How fast is Doom on your Amiga?
Posted on 12-Sep-2008 21:32:51
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@Hypex

PC wad should work.

If you cann´t find extracted WAD file, then download shareware Doom and simply unzip it.

You will have these files:

DEICE.EXE
DOOMS_19.DAT
DOOMS_19.1
DOOMS_19.2
INSTALL.BAT

Run DOSBox (or another PC emulator for your Amiga) or real PC and run INSTALL.BAT
eg:

C:\
C:\cd DOOM (or another directory you have created for Doom...)
C:\INSTALL.BAT

Now you can use extracted WAD!

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Posted on 13-Sep-2008 3:15:03
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@pavlor

Thanks for the tips. I have done this before on an A1200 with no PC involved! But, I have takenb too long to figure it out, and have been beaten to the crunch by a more powerful AmigaOne user. It's all in the Hz.

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Re: How fast is Doom on your Amiga?
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"Timed 2134 gametics in 241 realtics = 309.9 frames per second"

That's AmigaOne G3@800 with a native Doom port, prboom. Sound was present.

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Re: How fast is Doom on your Amiga?
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By the way, those who are tired of the first (shareware) episode of Doom, get Freedoom. This has - especially if Freedoom is not playable - the benefit of being able to play any of the numerous addon levels like Hell Revealed. I haven't tried that with ADoom, yet.

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@pavlor

My results for a Pegasos2 G3/600 and MorphOS 2.1 are 669 realtics and 111,64 fps.

@Hypex

You didn't have to use Dosbox. Just join the two archive-parts "DOOM_19.1" and DOOM_19.2" and then use unzip, that's enough.

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@Thematic

I found Prboom sitting on my HD but couldn't seem to get it to play the demos.

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@_analogkid_

Quote:
You didn't have to use Dosbox. Just join the two archive-parts "DOOM_19.1" and DOOM_19.2" and then use unzip, that's enough.


Thanks...

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ADoom (MorphOS) on Pegasos2 (G4/1GHz/Radeon9200) and MorphOS 2.0 gave 617 realticks and 253 fps.

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@itix

Strange, 253 fps should mean cca 295 realtics. What is the number of gametics (2134 required)?

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@pavlor

He may have used the full version of Doom. My results seemed strange so I downloaded the demo you linked to.

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pavlor 
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@All

Shareware WAD is required

Anyway, thanks for your results.

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Posted on 13-Sep-2008 10:19:11
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@pavlor

About 4500 gameticks (IIRC). Results are from full version. Does it make difference if one is using demo WAD files?

Last edited by itix on 13-Sep-2008 at 10:19 AM.

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@itix

Yes, demo3 in the full version is not the same as in the shareware version.

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@_analogkid_

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You didn't have to use Dosbox. Just join the two archive-parts "DOOM_19.1" and DOOM_19.2" and then use unzip, that's enough.


Ah, thanks. I knew it was something simple.

However now I am stuck again. I used ADoomWOS as it was reported to work on an OS4 machine. But it gets stuck on the sound setup. It just sits there waiting. This causes IBrowse to somhow die and stop responding. No crashes occur. I hate that sort of thing.

Perhaps I messed up the settings for ADoom.

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Posted on 13-Sep-2008 14:09:51
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Fast enough thanks. 030 50Mhz AGA is fast enough for me to complete Doom 2 (using ADoom) despite some pretty bad slow down on the more open levels. I've know got a 040 25Mhz with Picasso IV so can't wait to play through Final Doom!

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Fast enough thanks. 030 50Mhz AGA is fast enough for me to complete Doom 2 (using ADoom) despite some pretty bad slow down on the more open levels. I've know got a 040 25Mhz with Picasso IV so can't wait to play through Final Doom!


My favorite for my A1200/030 was DoomAttack! I probably had to use 2x1 mode in which case the copper chunky could have been used to speed it up. But it ran fast enough to play.

I just tried it on my A1. Something has happened to DoomAttack on Aminet and now only some strange beta version without icons remains. It loaded okay, no complaints and even had sound! Then I tried it the demo3. It went mad! And zoomed all over the place in a mad rush!!

Unfortunately it ran too fast and just froze the machine. Too bad. It was funny. Would have made a mad FPS!

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@All

ADoomPPC (WarpOS) seems to be the fastest Doom port for PowerPC based Amigas (and clones).

One Pegasos II G4 user (Luky) reports more than 700 FPS!!

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