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steril606 
Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 10-Nov-2008 20:59:32
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Probably a stupid question, but does having a Linux Kernal mean being able to use all Linux stuff automatically?




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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 10-Nov-2008 21:17:03
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@HenryCase Quote:
Such speculation is not helping ChrisH. AROS development isn't going to stop any time soon. All you can say for sure is the two AROS developers mentioned in the AROS Show blog will be working on Anubis.

So you think that lack of information (allowing natural Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt) will engender more support for AROS than hard facts (which we currently lack) ?

IMHO, my "speculation" is what most people are going to think, unless they hear otherwise. Think of this thread as airing those private thoughts in public, so that Anubis/AROS developers can correct them if they are wrong.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
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@BigBentheAussie Quote:
Have you guys figured that the hardest part of AROS is probably adlready done?
What's there to wait for?

A completed Workbench replacement? (*) Stability?

edit: (* = the on-going work to complete snapshotable icon positions will really help here.)

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Posted on 10-Nov-2008 21:35:26
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I don't think this is going to work...

As soon as you use Linux kernel,you would wont Linux programs to work as well,
so you add X-Windows and GTK + GDK + QT and all the linux applications, now you have Linux distribution.

sorry some already has tried this.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 10-Nov-2008 22:58:59
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As long as i had talked with both michal and m0ns00n on IRC, it looks to me like it is their intention to give a full look and feel amiga, in short: libraries, devices and so on; even the graphic system, beside being based on xcb, looks it maybe might use part of zune or a similar philosophy, plus i remember they told me is expected a partial API compatibility with aros.

I am more concerned that people might think that because of anubis aros will be neglected and forgot; being an open source project,it might be taken over by somebody else, plus anubis and aros have different targets: anubis aim more at new machines while aros has also old hardware as target reference. The two projects can convive and interoperate (AROS can run hosted on anubis as far as i know); probably even attract more developers to an amiga-like approach to programming, thing that so far is kinda hard due to the lack of documentation and tools.

More than else, i reckon Michal say that being amiga an history of lost occasions, he want to make Anubis OS what Amiga os 4 or even aros should have been. Sounds a bit like what apple did with os-x, having even the old sandboxed os-9 in the earliest incarnations of os-x; considered that a leap is anyway required because even the new os4.1 still has its problems i see it as a good move.

I honestly support both, but my main focus now is on aros; is the closest to work properly and will be one of the foundations (license allowing) for its son. Just IMO we should support all amiga os incarnations at least emotionally: been outside of amiga environment for some year and when i came back to see how things were going, especially due to aros progresses, i found a severe fragmentation; i would like more to see all systems doing some kind of cooperation inorder to enlarge the applications range and, hopefully the userbase under all the Amiga OS incarnations.

Saimon69

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 10-Nov-2008 23:36:53
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I think this news should provide something for the AROS doubters to think about. For a long time people have been saying that AROS isn't a "real" Amiga operating system. Well now if has split. If nothing else that makes it a LOT more like a "real" Amiga, doesn't it?

Opinion? I think this entire thread is more evidence that Amiga users are the most passionate, devoted people I have ever seen. What was created by Commodore has had a far greater impact than anyone could have imagined.

Company after company has tried to "cash in" on the Amiga devoted. Most have offered very little in return.

We have been beaten, bruised and battered. We have been spit on, shafted and sold out. And we are still here, pressing on, trying any possible path to the future.

There is a thin line between being devoted and being crazy. I think we, collectively, are all over that line.

At some point, some company will find a way to present the real "Amiga Experience" again. I expect they will have a very bright future, if they can survive the fanatical lunatics that are defending the crown.

Just my two cents.

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@ thread
I wish them the best of luck.


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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
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@Trekiej

any news on this front..

i am not into linux as well. way not unix ?

or go to os 4.0 dev..

now there is sam. soo way not try to take them onboard the os 4.x dev team

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
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@Phantom

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if its a another unix/linux than im out of here no thanks.


Unfortunately it is...


Good news, your very wrong.

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Re: AROS splits (goodbye AROS?)
Posted on 16-Nov-2008 15:36:15
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@NutsAboutAmiga

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I don't think this is going to work...


Wouldn't the prudent thing be to wait an see first?

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As soon as you use Linux kernel,you would wont Linux programs to work as well,


Some will be a easy recompile, others will have to be ported.

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so you add X-Windows and GTK + GDK + QT and all the linux applications, now you have Linux distribution.


Thankfully your not the one creating Anubis. Instead of those bloated toolkits, think something like Feeln instead. There is a reason why Anubis was created vs just going with a bog standard Linux/GNU distro.

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