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acefnq wrote: @Zylesea What sort of Amiga do you run, just for the record? ace

I use a total of 3 ppc 3 x86 and one 68k maschine.
My main maschine is a Pegasos with MorphOS, but there's also an Efika with MorphOS. Occassionally an A600 is used for a game and there are two WinUAE installations on my both Windows computers.
My Mac Mini waits for the final MorphOS release and for my I am thinking of checking out AROS for my Eee.

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Zardoz wrote: @Hammer No, there's an issue with the memory bus on the PPC in question, I can't remember exactly. There's info about it on MZ. MorphOS runs on the 5200 as well, it's that specific CPU that is peculiar, not embedded ones in general.

It has been in this thread, too. The problem is a cache incoherence. The software must take care about the cache. On systems like AOS or MorphOS this shoudn't be too complicated, but it is an issue. An even worse issue is, that the documentation of the PowerVR is *not* publically available. And I don't know if someone actually has used the AXE engine yet...
Thi limebook is YADE (yet another dead end). Unfortunatey I must add. I was VERY keen about that project a while ago...

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@Zylesea

Its up to the tech people to devise a way, make revision/s to the software and hardware!
RIGHT NOW! LimeOS works great, and even can run Java Runtime / SDK & OpenOffice on a Linux Kernal. If they can do it, the Amiga people should be able to also. I have had one engineer mention its likely to incorporate fixes for AmigaOS or workarounds for AmigsOS if the bottlenecks persists. ---Please ignore any hearsay, just watch the video's---

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meet.mrnrg wrote: @Zylesea Its up to the tech people to devise a way, make revision/s to the software and hardware! RIGHT NOW! LimeOS works great, and even can run Java Runtime / SDK & OpenOffice on a Linux Kernal. If they can do it, the Amiga people should be able to also. I have had one engineer mention its likely to incorporate fixes for AmigaOS or workarounds for AmigsOS if the bottlenecks persists. ---Please ignore any hearsay, just watch the video's---

Is the LimeOS source-code available? More precisely, how about the driver code? And what about the documentation for the chipset? I can remember having a quick look around and it contains a PowerVR MBX graphics core. Whilst this isn't the most powerful graphics chip, it is in use in a number of mobile phones (e.g., the iPhone and Nokia N95). Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be any publicly available documentation for this graphics core.

I know that people expect everything Linux to be fully open-sourced, but I've received quotes from companies selling industrial (compact-PCI) motherboards who charge $2000 for the Linux drivers that are required by the hardware that they sell.

Hans

P.S. I think that it's pretty obvious now that you have at least one LimeBook in your posession. We don't need to see photos and videos of every program that's installed on it, or every update.

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meet.mrnrg wrote: @Zylesea Its up to the tech people to devise a way, make revision/s to the software and hardware!

Which tech people would these be? Have you secured any for this work? Have you created a business partnership between Hyperion to revise their software and Tsinghua Tongfang to revise their hardware (if need be). And if the hardware needs revising what good would the current laptops you are desperately trying to sell here be to any Amiga users?

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RIGHT NOW! LimeOS works great, and even can run Java Runtime / SDK & OpenOffice on a Linux Kernal. If they can do it, the Amiga people should be able to also.

Terrasoft made Yellow Dog Linux for PS3, and sadly we have not been able to make any Amiga-like OS for PS3. It would seem likely that Terrasoft had more money and folks to get that done, just like it would appear that Tsinghua Tongfang had for LimeOS on Limebook. Just because others do something does not mean we can do it when its unclear how much money and people those parties had to accomplish a similar task. If we don't have similar means as a community, then its not a fair thing to simply say we "should be able to [do it] also".

Bottom line you are putting the cart ahead of the horse. You need to assemble a programming team meet.mrnrg. One you are either paying for, or one that you get to work for free. And even if you get such a team together, and it would be cool if you did, I wish you the best of luck, you'd still need to coordinate getting them certain documentation about the hardware. Its pretty clear from your messages here that you have done none of this. And before you say its the community that needs to do that, not you, just remember, you are the one trying to make a business out of selling us expensive Linux netbooks.

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$2, $1, 50c, 2c whats next?
Take a look at the Order Form (PDF)

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mikipedia wrote: @fairlanefastback @wegster I've been watching this thread for a little while now and I tried posting earlier but for some reason I was blocked for a day it said. Been around AW.net for years, just haven't ever posted anything.

Then welcome to AW, regardless (or your first post, at least).

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I am just wondering what is both of your guys' problem with meet.mrnrg? I don't want to go too much into it, I am kind of tired of reading your responses. But seriously??? WTF? Why don't you stop accusing the guy and stop telling him what to do and how much money to make? Has he in any way screwed you over? And who are you pretending you are internet police? His product doesn't interest me much, but I don't see ANY harm in what he's doing. It is ambiguous to you? So what? It is too expensive? So what? He'll be making money? So what? 1000% profit? Good for him... Did he put a gun to our heads and made us pay for something we didn't want? Vote with your wallets...I will be.

Fairlane answered this, and I don't deviate much with my own response - Amiga users, and potential ones, have been through the wringer enough with vaporware, and I have a *huge* dislike/distaste for half-truths and misleading posts, that are either intentionally or not, deceiving others.

In nrg's case, look back through his posts, and this thread - quite often it's *quite* confusing as to what information he's presenting, what is versus 'what might be' etc, so more than just myself and fastlane have asked for clarification, as well as supplying links to other 'information' about Lime that's relevant, which yes, certainly includes pricing. I doubt you'll find nrg being consistently singled out here, and as I've been participating in this thread, also have not moderated in the same, to effectively give him the benefit of the doubt, no matter how frustrating some prior posts and non-answers have been.

*shrug* Why don't YOU understand while you're perfectly happy to read whatever it is that is 'fine with you,' others, not only fastlane and myself, prefer more *actual* information, and if something seems fishy, it's going to get commented on, until things are clarified...

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Title: Donate a LimeBook - To AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS - Developers Synopsis: To gather donations, for the purpose of purchasing LimeBook notebook/s for 1 or more of developers from each of the following teams; 1) AmigaOS 2) MorphOS 3) AROS Project members: 1) Developer will be rewarded with a nice notebook, the LimeBook. 2) Work, Business & Fun may become a little bit more pleasurable 3) Developer may become more productive, in and out of the office / house 4) Developer may become familiar enough with LimeBook chip set & configuration, enough to give a better approach / road map towards achieving one of the Amiga Communities goals. Which is Amiga Power - Notebooks / Laptops http://stores.shop.ebay.com/TryTerra-Computers http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160325770518 http://amiga.easypocketmoney.com/limebookppc/Lime_Book_Purchase_Order_REV1.pdf Created by: easypocketmoney Created at: 20090419 23:49 Deadline: Not set Finished at: Not finished Last update: Not updated Assigned to: Not assigned Comments: 0

Oh jeez dude. Now you are making a mockery out of one of the Amiga community's bounty systems. So lets get this straight. You create a bounty to buy Limebooks from an exclusive vendor only (you). At your price, for which the comparison we have from news items across the internet makes it appear you may be overcharging by quite a bit. You have no developers listed so there is no transparency as to who you'd distribute the equipment to. If only one or two get bought which team gets preference? And you provide no requirement that said developer(s) even work on the project of porting in order to get the equipment.

And you give the community no assurance that the machine will be even widely available to the European and/or U.S. markets. So even if we as a community collectively "buy" the machines through this it could all be for nothing.

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@fairlanefastback

I think that I should point out at this stage that amigabounty.net clearly says that it's focused on Amiga OS 4. While other Amiga like OSes may well benefit from the bounties due to open-source licenses, this suggested bounty doesn't match the focus of the site. Even ignoring this, I doubt that the bounty will be accepted and opened in its current form. The suggested bounty doesn't talk about development of anything.

Meet.mrnrg doesn't have to specify who the machines would be going to; developers would have to ask to be assigned the bounty. Having said that, the only developers that it would make sense to give it to, are OS4 developers that could actually perform the work (e.g., have access to the HAL/bootup source-code). Really, it is pointless unless Hyperion agree to a port to the LimeBook; if they don't, it's just not happening.

I'd personally be okay with a fund to get LimeBooks to developers, but only if it were with Hyperion's support. I definitely would like to have an Amiga laptop (although I'd prefer one with a graphics card that had shaders), but it's Hyperion's call what hardware is and isn't supported.

Hans

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Meet.mrnrg doesn't have to specify who the machines would be going to; developers would have to ask to be assigned the bounty.

Which currently has these requirements:

1) Say you develop software, skill level and experience not required to be anything.
2) Say you would like to be "rewarded with a nice notebook, the LimeBook."

This is no bounty in the first place, as you allude to.

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Donate a LimeBook - To AmigaOS / MorphOS / AROS - Developers

That's exactly what I was going to suggest you do.

Have you even been in contact with the relevant parties to find out if they'd consider LimeBook as a target hardware, or are you just going to send the hardware blind while others take the financial hit.

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Now you are making a mockery out of one of the Amiga community's bounty systems.

-- NO, and You know its not!

The only mockery is to take no action, if you didn't hear SonyErricson laid of thousand more workers! The Gaming industry took a nose dive in profits for the first time. Stop punching holes where there are is no need!

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European and/or U.S. markets.

French and Spanish LimeOS is ready! Boxing and Manuals are being translated -- Work in progress!

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Good points.. Hopefully on the 8th day are wishes will be granted!

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