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kadenaa 
Getting started with OS4 Software Development
Posted on 21-Apr-2010 13:05:22
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Hi All,

I am looking at getting an X1000 when released and would like to develop software for it. There are a couple of porting projects I will likely do first but these should be straight forward no gui just server code.
However I would like to know what resources there are to assist the newbee. I have been a commercial software developer for 15 years mostly C/C++/C#/Java. I only played a bit with DICE C on the Amiga while I was at UNI and never could get the OS3 specific stuff working.
So my question is are there any examples, tutorials, books etc that I can be looking at while I wait that cover Amiga specific stuff?

Many thanks,

Kad.

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Arko 
Re: Getting started with OS4 Software Development
Posted on 21-Apr-2010 13:16:19
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@kadenaa

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just server code.


Server code ? A new Samba client would be great. All AmigaOD systems are programmed with GCC today. There is a SDK for AOS4 at the Hyperion website. If you are not interested in GUI and if you have no AOS4 computer you can start with GCC on a PC using AROS.

And there is X-Platform IDE enabling people writing soft for AOS4 (and others) without having the system: http://amidevcpp.amiga-world.de/

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kadenaa 
Re: Getting started with OS4 Software Development
Posted on 22-Apr-2010 9:15:51
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@Arko

Thanks for the info. I do already have AROS installed as a Virtual Machine. I was more interested in tutorials, sample code etc for how to interact with Amiga specific stuff GUI, Drivers etc. Ami Dev CPP :( sadly Windows only. It is bad enough I have to run Windows at work I'll not run it at home too. Hopefully it will not be too long for the X1000.

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@kadenaa
Once you have an OS4 machine, you can use Codebench, and develop on OS4 itself.

The SDK comes with some documentation, and if you have any questions, utilitybase is a good place to ask.

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@kadenaa

One programming site:

http://utilitybase.com/

You can allready cross-compiling:

http://www.zerohero.se/cross/os4.html

For example, the amiblitz3 programmer use WinUAE and program amiblitz for AOS3, AOS4, morphOS,.......

Diego carossan code on his linux or PC box softwares for AOS3, AOS4 and morphOS.

That mean you can allready start.......now


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Re: Getting started with OS4 Software Development
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@kadenaa
There is a resident here that is about to write a (printed!) book on Aos4 development there was a thread a while back testing the "interest" of the community, which was very high, so I think he will do it (it will have tutorials, snippets and so on).
Not a programmer myself (just did very easy projects in visual studio and QT) but I am interested in that book too :)

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Re: Getting started with OS4 Software Development
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Official thread for the OS4 Programming Guide (OS4PG).


The official website (with loads of links to current programming resources/guides etc) will be: www.ast-workshops.co.uk/os4pg although it hasn't been officially launched yet.

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NB the OS4PG project has a very good level of support from key Amiga developers and will be written and checked by a team of experienced Amiga programmers. More info to follow in 2 more weeks (ahem).

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Posted on 22-Apr-2010 16:48:04
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@kadenaa

There are a few example in the OS4 SDK, but there lost examples missing,

SDK documents consist most of a detailed description of what etch command does, it does not how ever explain what command to use, the types / structures used by the command, and does not feature any beginner guide.

If you need some information on the types / structures you need to dig in to header files this files are commented.

Most developer her are where friendly, if you need help whit some thing then just ask.

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kadenaa 
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Posted on 23-Apr-2010 9:12:29
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@DAX

Yes I saw the thread and added my interest. I do like a printed manual, something to read in the toilet, I love to multitask :). I might get a netbook so I can surf the web there too.

Kad.

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kadenaa 
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Posted on 23-Apr-2010 9:16:02
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@yoodoo2

Thanks for the links I have them book marked now. I'll definitely be up for the copy of the book when it's released. I'm also happy to pre-order too :)

Kad.

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kadenaa 
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Posted on 23-Apr-2010 9:18:59
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@NutsAboutAmiga

Thanks for that I'll download the SDK now and have a look. Ah reading through headerfiles, that brings back memories.

Kad.

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kadenaa 
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Posted on 23-Apr-2010 9:38:12
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@Mrodfr

Thanks for the links will check them out.

Kad

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Posted on 23-Apr-2010 11:14:04
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@kadenaa

Hi and welcome! What kind of porting projects are you interested in?

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kadenaa 
Re: Getting started with OS4 Software Development
Posted on 23-Apr-2010 13:17:55
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Well. I haven't noticed any media streaming software for OS4 so I was thinking of porting one probably a simple one without transcoding at least in the first instance.

I have a couple of other ideas for stuff but really not decided on them yet.

Kad.

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Sounds cool :)

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@kadenaa

Just a side note.

Looks like somebody else has picked up on Rexx and did their own implementation.

http://www.ecomstation.com/product_info.phtml?url=nls/en/content/tour-whyecs.html&title=Why%20eComStation

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kadenaa wrote:

Well. I haven't noticed any media streaming software for OS4 so I was thinking of porting one probably a simple one without transcoding at least in the first instance.


Check out TuneNet and MPlayer first, concentrate your effort on something those two can't already stream.

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@kadenaa

Just a side note.

Looks like somebody else has picked up on Rexx and did their own implementation.

http://www.ecomstation.com/product_info.phtml?url=nls/en/content/tour-whyecs.html&title=Why%20eComStation


Rexx did not start out on the Amiga, ARexx is "just" a port from Unix with a message port added.

Chris

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Posted on 23-Apr-2010 21:13:27
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@kadenaa

Welcome and good luck with coding :)

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Mechanic 
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@kadenaa

Rexx did not start out on the Amiga, ARexx is "just" a port from Unix with a message port added.

Chris


Yes. And now another OS is doing the same thing.

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Never said Rexx started on Amiga.

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