@freeaks

Whatever further happens, AmigaOS and AmigaOne will continue to live. Commodore Amiga and other IP`s and trademarks became what CUSA is all about - nostalgia

And Amiga Inc is all about selling all they can to survive. That`s why they are back

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@Darth_X

I like especially this passage from the news section:

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Amiga Inc. also produces and distributes enabling technologies and applications for wired and wireless devices that provide technology to developers for writing and porting applications to a new multi-media operating system that is hardware agnostic, enabling applications to run unchanged on x86 and other processors.

OS5 anyone? ;)

It'll be interesting to see what they'll come up with! :)

@number6

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I've known you too long and respect you too much to ever make such a connection.

Likewise. I was seriously hoping I had not drawn the ire of one of the most reasonable and rational thinking folks still left on this site.

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I only mention ego, because you seem to focus on logic so much. There is little logic involved in parts of this story. There is, though, a lot of undying ill will from management types amigaland wide. I suppose that comes with the territory.

Touché.

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@elatour
My theory is that CUSA is still a fake and just a try to make the name "Amiga" look a bit more worthy for potential buyers.
I still offer 120.000$ for Amiga Inc.

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@number6

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That is either an obvious reference to -Commodore- -Amiga- -AmigaOS- [...] "third and final brand" is not vague is it?

Altman's business plan is to slap well known brands from the eighties on today's off-the-shelf hardware so he can sell said hardware at a premium. The AmigaOS brand is completely useless in that context, most of the intended target audience doesn't even know what "AmigaOS" would be.

Given the egos involved ("we're Amiga now!") I'd assume they were trying to get a license for some completely unrelated brand - like Atari. for example.

@elatour

You noted earlier that the timing of this announcement is convenient. I agree - very convenient indeed.


@phoenixkonsole

Agree. That solution is one that seems to work. Here's a question: I'm sure you are aware that others running businesses in this community have tried and failed to contact Amiga Inc. How did CUSA manage to succeed?

The recent fuss CUSA have stirred up could easily be nothing more than a smokescreen of activity designed to give the impression of a vibrant enthusiast community desperate to buy Amiga branded products. The provocation posted to this forum keeps discussions on the front page and gives further false evidence of interest. The existence of a thread of 590 replies discussing the fact that Amiga.com was down can be used to make claims of great public interest. Of course, we all know that thread is mostly full of Snowman Maker jokes, but do outsiders?

If this scenario is correct, it wouldn't be the first time that Amiga Inc has used this community as a smokescreen for its activities. See the interpretation of past events presented on the freeamiga site.

@T-J
That was just my thought, because all Mails went back since 2009. As always this is not proven and just a theory. But a good one : D

Whatever.... 120.000$ for Ainc.! And to be honest i would make a female web-magazine out of the page.

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@phoenixkonsole

I assume you mean a Comma in your $amount or do you really mean $120? lol

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@djrikki

USD 250 000 and I'm make it a classy Pr0n site!

im one of community and whats C=USA :p

@djrikki
Well sorry this is my german style... i mean 120000$ not 120. : D
But Persia offers more. Well whatever i wrote to Pluritas because i am interested.

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@number6

One question that has me thinking is how they intend to refer to any OS made for their system. Traditionally, one would refer to the OS as <system name> OS so these "Amiga" licensed machines would expect to run "Amiga OS" - which clearly cannot happen as Amiga Inc. are not allowed to use the term (or derivatives there-of).

Creating any other OS and naming it as for use on "Amiga" machines then potentially leads to a confusion (admittedly not for us long time users) as this OS will not work on Commodore Amigas (only Commodore USA (PC) Amigas and by extension one presumes PCs as a whole).

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@_Steve_

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One question that has me thinking is how they intend to refer to any OS made for their system. Traditionally, one would refer to the OS as OS so these "Amiga" licensed machines would expect to run "Amiga OS" - which clearly cannot happen as Amiga Inc. are not allowed to use the term (or derivatives there-of).

Interesting question Steve.
Would you apply the same thinking to the rebranded Commodore name to the other products coming from Asiarim? Similar quandry or no?

If so, then perhaps the clue is already there in how those products are being marketed.

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Third brand....? CBM tried to enter the PC market long ago with it's COLT machines.
I see something evolving now....

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Perhaps, AI has received a fresh infusion of cash, just enough for another round of "negotiations" in the courts. (déjà vu ?...)

or

Appropriate alterations to "prove" that a deal exists between AI and C=USA.

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Update ... AmigaOS link goes to the correct page, so this can't be a redirect to a fake web page.

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@_Steve_

If their Linux distro will materialize they could cal it "Amiga Workbench X"?

@T-J

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In addition, we have the repeated use of trademarks no longer owned by Amiga Inc,

In that vein, I see Inquisitor has posted another expiration, which you could check out.

November 1, 2010
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UK trademark 1546788 was also let expire.

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@number6

That is interesting. A brief interrogation of the Intellectual Property Office reveals that Trade Mark 1546788, 'AMIGA', has indeed expired. It was filed in 1993, which is odd.

However, Trade Mark 2428656, also 'AMIGA' but with the stylised wordmark, is still in force and will be until 2016. These two marks seem to overlap considerably, although the still-in-force one doesn't cover as many product areas as the old one did - clothing, stationery and accessories were covered by the old one but don't seem to be under the still-existing one.

Both these marks were registered by Amiga Inc (Delaware), which is also interesting. Here's all their other UK-registered trade marks. I note that both instances of AmigaDOS have also expired.

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@T-J

There does however appear to be this one, which is a Community Trademark. I think that means it's registered throughout the EU rather than individual countries, and it's not expired. Although, again it still doesn't cover as many product areas as the Trade Mark 1546788.

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@thread

Replying to my post and those made after I posted the Pluritas news story.
After reading many articles on the net, I must conclude Pluritas made an error, at least in terms of how their press release reads.
They meant to refer to the "Commodore" community, whereas they referenced "Amiga" instead.

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The Amiga community thrives today and has been awaiting the return of the brand that helped revolutionize the computer and gaming industry.

In the context of the paragraph, that statement is misleading at best and a blatant misrepresentation that connects the desires of the Amiga community with the company mentioned in the press release (AI) at worst. Pluritas is "engaged" by Amiga Inc.. I wonder if clarity in the news release was mistaken or whether the statement was intentional by design.

Commodore fans, to a degree, do look forward to any Commodore resurgence that might take place, regardless of the specific company involved, imo.

source

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