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Poll : custom amiga branded case, form factor accomodating all motherboards for the current amiga derivates, sticker optional
custom amiga branded keyboard with an original layout
support 68k chipset/cpu in fpga compatible development, attempt to achieve an asic solution
deliver new hardware for and support os4
deliver new hardware for and support morphos
support aros and donate to the associated bounties
deliver x86 hardware and seamless emulation for the existing amiga derivates
nothing of the above
 
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wawa 
what is your primary expectation of a contemporary amiga company to deliver (beyond what is currently available)
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 15:07:37
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in order to get the current cusa proposition into some shape, or at least see what people in here would like to have as their current amiga system regardless available alternatives i open a small poll.

lets take it as an attempt to get some common denominator in this otherwise luckily individualistic scene.

let me say im not a genuine cusa supporter and take this rather as opportunity than that i actually expect them to stand up to their claims. but i think it doesnt hurt to know what we would most likely agree on. the poll will be sure to limited. feel free to make another, better one, at best controlled by a moderator who could extend it according to wishes.

so, choose, what do you want. note that multiple votes are possible.

edit: sorry treat the first poll option as both: custom keyboard and case choice, ive been to dumb to see how a poll hast to be set to start with.

edit2:

ah, guys please keep comments short or refrain from, if you want this poll to be any constructive.

but i think while choosing "nothing of the abvove" the most interesting would be to know what would you yourself consider an option (beyond if the reason is just not trusting cusa, because id like to go beyond discussion about that company, the poll may be as well an indication for other companies, as for what the community expects)

edit3:

further poll item suggestions:

-Support/Sponsor development/porting of missing CORE applications, like Office , 3D, Video Editing , etc (wajdy)

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Re: cusa proposition
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 15:12:03
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@wawa

I have voted for what I feel should be done. Though I do think that this might be locked as another poll was locked earlier.

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jkirk 
Re: cusa proposition
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 15:13:21
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@wawa

i voted none of the above because i would like to see the current os/mb companies supported through sales of complete systems thru cusa.

on an aside i would still like to see some progress on os4 for x86 based partially on aros to reduce development time.

example
present:
natami(or equivalent) in a600 case supporting os 1.3 to 3.1
sam 440/460 in a500/a1000 style case running os4
x1000 in a a2000 style case with os4
future:
x86 itx mb in an a1200 case running x86 os4
x86 atx/matx mb in an a3000/4000 case running x86 os4

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wajdy 
Re: cusa proposition
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 15:32:12
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@wawa

Kindly add : Support/Sponsor development/porting of missing CORE applications, like Office , 3D, Video Editing , etc

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wawa 
Re: cusa proposition
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@wajdy
seems i cannot modify this poll but take your note for the future consideration. thanks!

edit: noted your option on the initial.

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wajdy 
Re: cusa proposition
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 15:54:15
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@wawa
Bounties and Aros are totally different

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Re: cusa proposition
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@wawa
What i want is a more affordable os4.x compatible system but with something like natami or at least minimig for backwards compatibility/custom chipset support.

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ddni 
Re: cusa proposition
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 15:59:54
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@wawa

This is a joke of a poll.

It is missing the ONLY option that I would consider choosing " CUSA should go and rot in a hole"

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Re: cusa proposition
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 16:07:59
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@ddni

Quote:
because id like to go beyond discussion about that company,


did you read this? if not please consider removing the comment from your post.

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Re: cusa proposition
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 16:12:36
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@jkirk

I will not remove my post.

The thread is titled CUSA proposition.
At some point in the future, it will be dug up by some CUSA fan boy who will claim "look what the community want CUSA to do"
This being the case I want my choice to be represented.

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wawa 
Re: cusa proposition
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 16:14:44
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@wajdy

Quote:

Bounties and Aros are totally different

you are right, especially it could influence this poll in favour of aros. i knew im aros biased, forgive me ;)
remark removed again!

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Re: cusa proposition
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 16:22:50
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@ddni

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At some point in the future, it will be dug up by some CUSA fan boy who will claim "look what the community want CUSA to do"

look at it from this side: if someone digs it up and cusa doesnt deliver it can be used against them.

adjusted the poll title, hope more to your liking.

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Re: cusa proposition
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@wawa

Don't be offended, but I will abstain from this poorly constructed poll.

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@ddni

right, has been done in hurry and cannot now be better adjusted, if you are not satisfied you can make a proposition what shoud be changed in the future or stay away. no offence.

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Re: cusa proposition
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@wawa

Thanks Wawa, sums things up perfectly. Not going away though

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Re: cusa proposition
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9. If Commodore USA does not perform the required work in 6 months of the project commencement date, then the 500+ customers have the option to withdraw immediately for a full refund of their prepayment. 14. In the meantime, Commodore USA will potentially continue with its current x86 based Commodore AMIGA plans, that will co-exist with the community's desired Commodore AMIGA branded product/s.


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@ddni

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It is missing the ONLY option that I would consider choosing " CUSA should go and rot in a hole"


I guess haters have to hate.

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Posted on 20-Dec-2011 17:42:40
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lol so true and sheep gotta be sheep

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@ddni

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lol so true and sheep gotta be sheep


Let us not drag Fleecy into this thread.

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vox 
Re: cusa proposition
Posted on 20-Dec-2011 18:20:55
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@ddni

Quote:
This is a joke of a poll. It is missing the ONLY option that I would consider choosing " CUSA should go and rot in a hole"


Its interesting to see that this forum is Amiga Inc. offshoot forum :)
Just to know ...

Its interesting that people DO BELIEVE what ..?
That CUSA can:

- actually develop system?
- Order from their factories in China if get 500 preorders
- Improve existing OS4 / AROS-Natami / MOS products?
- Have alliance wih Hyperion/Acube based on joint product Hyperion
was never asked for?
- Buy existing Amiga product and rebrand it? Which product? And you would again pay more for re-brand?

Its not only a problem that "Community" is not single minded with the plan,
seems neither CUSA is.

The magic question is "what product is"

At the other hand, don`t mind that CUSA will NOT change its way on making its own Amiga line and advertising it.

Making community project secured by community is nothing to lose tactics, while you will not be able to object their main product line that meanwhile goes for advertising, while this project gets NDA. If 500 preorders fails, its the community "is wrong". As CUSA is company that neither designs hardware or software, what can we believe is that they can rebrand existing products as usual.

Short - many obstacles, little chances of success, win-win of CUSA

* * *

Without this:
Natami is closer then ever
MOS 3.x supports more Macs
AmigaOS 4 gets low end and high end hardware next year

Where would be place for new products?

Would it have any effect beside "healing relations wits CUSA"

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