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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 10-Sep-2017 17:04:02
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so cloanto are trying to take the amiga trademark, and now the amikit developer is, too? is this some sort of joke? i'll be damned if i buy anything from either of them ever again.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 10-Sep-2017 17:20:55
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The Amiga "assets" seem complicated, even moreso outside of the United States:
http://www.pluritas.com/_public/_public_amiga/Amiga_Trademarks.pdf
I can't say this applies, but I do see where certain trademarks have been renewed, while others have not.
As far as "right and wrong" go, I can't comment as I haven't the legal background.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-Sep-2017 0:45:57
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so cloanto are trying to take the amiga trademark, and now the amikit developer is, too? is this some sort of joke? i'll be damned if i buy anything from either of them ever again.
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So you wouldn't support either company simply because they attempted to secure the trademark?
Kind of tough to appreciate their motivations in advance isn't it?
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-Sep-2017 18:10:34
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Consumer Protection Party
Can anyone confirm/deny or wish to comment? |
Heinz-Alexander Drews seems to actually be the party chief ("Vorstand - 1 Vorsitzender" = "Chairman of the board"):
Verbraucherschutzpartei.de - Vorstand
I also note on the same page: "Schatzmeister - Sabine Drews" - the treasurer seems to be related to the party chief!!!
Wikipedia too mentions him as the party chief ("Vorsitzenden der Verbraucherschutzpartei").
Before the Amiga filing, his party made headlines for having forged signatures:
Verbraucherschutzpartei trat mit falschen Unterschriften an
(source: @cbmamiga)
Politics, nepotism, forged signatures... Trying to become popular by registering the Amiga trademark seems to be a match made in heaven! What next, will they rename Verbraucherschutzpartei in Amigaschutzpartei (Amiga Defense Party)?Last edited by aria on 11-Sep-2017 at 06:15 PM.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-Sep-2017 18:53:58
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Thank you for the additional info.
We should keep in mind that this is just a "filing" and not a registration. Sometimes this is done just to gauge reaction. When Hyperion filed for AmigaOne, AmigaOS, and BoingBall with uspto, this was most likely also a test of how the system would react. Such reaction sometimes helps formulate future strategies.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 12-Sep-2017 23:50:48
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so cloanto are trying to take the amiga trademark, and now the amikit developer is, too? |
Developer? Hyperion and Cloanto are developers. AmiKit (Jan Zahurancik) seems to excel at telling other people what to do. And then branding it with cat pictures, hippy music festival photos and promoting "gifts" and "generosity" to bag all the money... Very smart... Maybe his Master Degree in Psychology (LinkedIn) contributed to seducing me initially, but after this Amiga mark filing I think I under$tand the true nature...
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 14-Sep-2017 16:34:24
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 14-Sep-2017 21:08:18
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Cloanto
Note:class 28 is gaming
same tm# here
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 14-Sep-2017 23:28:21
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It says it was assigned. If you click Historic case details, then Event history, it shows a change in law firm and owner.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 16-Sep-2017 15:34:29
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Thank you again. I appreciate the additional help since this is a lot to keep up with.
I'll enclose the direct link to what you stated:
click event history tab
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 16-Sep-2017 15:42:19
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 17-Sep-2017 1:48:51
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Cloanto changes representative yesterday |
Comparing with the previous version, I think they appointed (rather than changed) a EU representative. This may have been a requirement to defend against Hyperion's opposition.
It is the same representative they already had for the "Cloanto" EU mark.Last edited by aria on 17-Sep-2017 at 01:52 AM.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 21-Sep-2017 15:14:31
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more documents filed under correspondence
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date of commencement of proceedings |
ditto
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 25-Sep-2017 16:50:34
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My apologies for overlooking new info on another trademark. I had been following workbench and amigaforever for obvious reasons, along with the uspto and euipo filings for Amiga.
Cloanto files for potential opposition against Hyperion's euipo filing for AmigaOS
And again in the correspondence section: Quote:
commencement of proceedings to the opposing party |
Basically the same data and dates as those filed above for Cloanto's potential opposition against Hyperion's euipo filing for Workbench.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 25-Sep-2017 17:23:02
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 25-Sep-2017 18:13:23
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Also...
Another surveillance letter went out to Amiga Inc. for the euipo Amiga mark:
See correspondence section
See post #219 this thread for definition of term.
Lest I repeat myself, whenever you read Amiga Inc. these days, it means Itec LLC/Reed Smith of course.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 25-Sep-2017 18:34:50
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Apparently the Amiga (and related) trademark battle has now gone mainstream:
World Trademark Review
More players on the way?
Oh, it hit twitter as well.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 26-Sep-2017 15:12:47
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Again apologies. By keeping up with only the major trademark battles, I lose track of the other trademarks that I have reported in this thread.
Amigakit filing for Amigakit trademark in Benelux
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 27-Sep-2017 20:28:36
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 12-Oct-2017 13:47:37
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Notice sent to Amiga Inc./Itec LLC/Reed Smith that they need to renew their Amiga euipo trademark. This follow in the wake of euipo sending them multiple surveillance letters.
Source under correspondence
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