@Drewlio77

Yeah I like too hearing the psysical floppy noises.Is cool.

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@BigD

Thanks,but it doesn't interest me as the rate failure od high.

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AMIGA 1300 030/50 Mhz/32 MB WB 3.9 with lots of games&demos
AMIGA ONE XE G3 PPC 800 Mhz/1 GB RAM/RADEON 9250 128 MB/SATA CONTROLLER

@BigD

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BigD wrote: The data tracks on a 1.44MB disk do not physically line up correctly on a Amiga 880kb drive so you risk read/write errors when Amiga formatted etc but it's your life.

It's a minor thing I guess, but I thought I'd clarify this: HD and DD tracks do actually line up perfectly. Both formats have the same number of tracks (80) in the same positions. The difference comes from that data density on those tracks - HD having double the data density of DD. To operate reliably with the higher density of bits needs a different medium and a different field strength from the heads, which is where the issues arise.

Also:

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...should be proper NOS stock from Amazon marketplace. At least you know they were manufactured in 2010/11 and will as reliable as you could expect them to be in 2018.

Amazon Marketplace is well known to be almost as bad as eBay when it comes to genuine products. Plenty of counterfeit, grey-market and non-approved products to be found there, so I wouldn't take anyone's word there on any product's history. If it's sold or fulfilled by Amazon themselves, at least you have some backing there, but in this case, it's neither.

Edit: And the reviews for those disks seem to bear that out, with many reporting a high failure rate when used in DD drives.

Last edited by Daedalus on 26-Oct-2018 at 12:23 PM.

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@Daedalus

Thanks for clarifying. This article is good for the whys and the effect on data degradation of using HD disks as DD ones:

http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/guzis.html

and more importantly this text file from 1998:

http://mdfs.net/Docs/Comp/Disk/Densities

Last edited by BigD on 26-Oct-2018 at 01:25 PM.

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@BigD&All

I was about to buy 12x10 box of diskettes on amazon.es,but when I saw the prize I was scared as hell,as it was initially 216 euros aproximately and it jumped to 4xx.xx euros!!!

I hope I can forbid the request as I putted 3 music CDs on the list of the order.

Next time I will probably think twice about the ordering of something on pages like this

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AMIGA 500 1.5 MB ACA500/ACA1232 accelerators
AMIGA 500 German
CD32 unexpanded
Amiga 1200 Tower on AmigaKit since years
AMIGA 1300 030/50 Mhz/32 MB WB 3.9 with lots of games&demos
AMIGA ONE XE G3 PPC 800 Mhz/1 GB RAM/RADEON 9250 128 MB/SATA CONTROLLER

@newlight

The Vesalia option seemed like a good one IMHO.

https://www.vesalia.de/e_floppydisks.htm

They are a reputable company.

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@BigD

Ummmm.....Is interesting the Vesalia packs of floppy disks.I will study it later but if the don't have labels or even boxes they are hard to buy for my moneybag.

Will study anyway,but are they new? or are they used?

If the have the boxes and the labels maybe I will go for it,but for now I am about to buy nothing except if it has good price and quality.

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AMIGA 500 1.5 MB ACA500/ACA1232 accelerators
AMIGA 500 German
CD32 unexpanded
Amiga 1200 Tower on AmigaKit since years
AMIGA 1300 030/50 Mhz/32 MB WB 3.9 with lots of games&demos
AMIGA ONE XE G3 PPC 800 Mhz/1 GB RAM/RADEON 9250 128 MB/SATA CONTROLLER

@newlight

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newlight wrote: Will study anyway,but are they new? or are they used?

To me, they look brand new. There are zero marks anywhere, no sign of any wear on the edges or of having ever had labels, no shutter slide marks, no marks at all on the disk surface, and they smell new...

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If the have the boxes and the labels maybe I will go for it,but for now I am about to buy nothing except if it has good price and quality.

As I said in my post, they're just supplied as-is, without boxes or labels. A while ago someone in the community posted that they had managed to find a couple of boxes of NOS DD floppies in bulk packaging (plain cardboard boxes of 500 disks IIRC), presumably left over from some duplication facility. My guess is that Vesalia bought one of these and are now selling them to end users in packs of 10.

They do feel of good quality (certainly better than some DD disks I bought from Argos around 20 years ago) and, as I said, zero failures of any kind so far from 20.

Last edited by Daedalus on 27-Oct-2018 at 01:36 PM.

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I recently needed to buy some new floppies to copy my Amiga OS 3.1.4 disk images onto for installation on my classic Amiga.

Checked eBay, didn't really trust what I was seeing. I bought 100 or more bulk floppies for my work back in the day, and was amazed how many of the cheap ones were completely unusable. A lot of those went into the bin.

Finally went on Amazon, and as you've all said, they're not cheap and even here there were plenty of customer reviews saying that they got crap that didn't work. In the end I got a pack of 25 NOS Sony disks that got very favourable reviews. I paid for them, though!

Now, I just need to keep these fresh ones from getting mixed up with the old ones.