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bison 
Should Amigaworld.net transition to the same forum software as Amiga.org?
Posted on 20-Oct-2020 0:08:09
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Should Amigaworld.net transition to the same forum software as Amiga.org?

https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=74922.msg850409#msg850409

I'm in the pancakes camp. I'm not crazy about the Amiga.com forum software, but it's probably a lot less buggy.

Last edited by bison on 20-Oct-2020 at 12:08 AM.

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Re: Should Amigaworld.net transition to the same forum software as Amiga.org?
Posted on 20-Oct-2020 2:14:24
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Okay, I’ll be the first to toss my 2 pea out ….

A) It took months to migrate Amiga.org.

B) After the migration, if it navigated and worked, that was good enough.

C) As it stands today, on a real Amiga using iBrowse 2.5, AmigaWorld.net looks a helluva lot better than A.O. & and is much easier to navigate. Looking at A.O. with the new software is like interpreting a Picasso.

D) Almost nobody came back.

That is all for now……

Last edited by Amiga4000 on 20-Oct-2020 at 02:57 AM.
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Re: Should Amigaworld.net transition to the same forum software as Amiga.org?
Posted on 20-Oct-2020 19:42:48
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@Amiga4000

... and yet we are never quite sure when the next hack attack will come on Amigaworld.net, whether the data stolen will be encrypted to a modern standard or whether the moderators would even notice never mind report it if it happened!

Would this improve under a new software framework? I suppose it wouldn't matter if a 3 month transition pushed the remnant to the English Amiga Board or Facebook!

We can't win me thinks.

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Re: Should Amigaworld.net transition to the same forum software as Amiga.org?
Posted on 20-Oct-2020 20:52:07
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@BigD

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... and yet we are never quite sure when the next hack attack will come on Amigaworld.net, whether the data stolen will be encrypted to a modern standard or whether the moderators would even notice never mind report it if it happened!


Under GDPR all data breaches must be reported. As far as I know, as long as some of the data is relevant to EU citizens this is the case, no matter where the site is hosted.

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Re: Should Amigaworld.net transition to the same forum software as Amiga.org?
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@BigD

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I suppose it wouldn't matter if a 3 month transition pushed the remnant to the English Amiga Board or Facebook!

The second time would hopefully go smoother.

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Rose 
Re: Should Amigaworld.net transition to the same forum software as Amiga.org?
Posted on 20-Oct-2020 22:28:39
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@Chris_Y

Quote:

Chris_Y wrote:
@BigD

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... and yet we are never quite sure when the next hack attack will come on Amigaworld.net, whether the data stolen will be encrypted to a modern standard or whether the moderators would even notice never mind report it if it happened!


Under GDPR all data breaches must be reported. As far as I know, as long as some of the data is relevant to EU citizens this is the case, no matter where the site is hosted.


Attitude seems to be that since they didn't leave calling card so it didn't happen. Even tho passwords on spam are unique to site and changed after last breach.

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nbache 
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Posted on 20-Oct-2020 22:42:24
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It's a yes from me.

If it's newer, safer, easier to maintain, bring it on.

And it would bring at least one giant advantage: The ability to use the "Unread posts" feature.

Best regards,

Niels

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Fairdinkem 
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Posted on 20-Oct-2020 23:44:14
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@bison

The landing page of Amiga.org when you enter the forum section is just horrible to read. If Amigaworld has to change I hope it doesn't look like amiga.org, I don't go there now because I just don't like the layout, fonts and overall format.

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@Fairdinkem

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The landing page of Amiga.org when you enter the forum section is just horrible to read. If Amigaworld has to change I hope it doesn't look like amiga.org, I don't go there now because I just don't like the layout, fonts and overall format.

Same here. It's hard to read, and news articles are just any other thread. Shame. I really liked the old site, but I understand the admin issues. If AWN goes that way I guarantee it will lose active posters, especially for those trying to use it from 68K machines.

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Posted on 21-Oct-2020 2:19:54
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@thread

No brainer, security is number one.

An expert can do it in hours - just hire a freelancer.

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bison 
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@Fairdinkem

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The landing page of Amiga.org when you enter the forum section is just horrible to read.

@eliyahu

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Same here. It's hard to read, and news articles are just any other thread.

Yeah, I agree. The problem with using the forums as the landing page is that it gives off a distinct "This is a backwater of the Internet" vibe. The software itself doesn't have to be configured this way, as can be seen on the SMF home page.

https://www.simplemachines.org/

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Posted on 21-Oct-2020 6:49:01
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.. and yet we are never quite sure when the next hack attack will come on Amigaworld.net, whether the data stolen


The oh so very sensitive data stolen on Amigaworld.net! The treasure trove of credit cards and bank account access credentials! Hackers must be lining up to attack Amigaworld.net and finally afford that Gulfstream they always dreamed of.

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paolone 
Re: Should Amigaworld.net transition to the same forum software as Amiga.org?
Posted on 21-Oct-2020 7:30:49
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I wonder what the sense of this question can be.

Although some security issues might be concerning, deciding what software and hardware solutions to use is not something users should choose.

This forum is a service offered by someone to a community, and the former are the only people who can wisely choose what to do, according to the requisites (Amiga browsers rarely are up-to-date), the budget (some solutions are costy) and the results they're aiming to.

Just my 2 cents

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Posted on 21-Oct-2020 9:52:41
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@asymetrix

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No brainer, security is number one.


Ensure your password and contact email is unique to this site. Security issue resolved, there is not other data held

Quote:

An expert can do it in hours - just hire a freelancer.


Expert would need to understand the (mosdified) data structures behind both systems and how to map them together tat's gong to take while even if you have some money to pay this mysterious expert to work on it full time.

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Posted on 21-Oct-2020 16:04:06
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Merge the two sites to one.

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smartroad 
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Posted on 21-Oct-2020 16:04:31
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Just archive this site and start a new one. If people want to talk about an old topic they can link to the archived site and carry on.

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bison 
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Posted on 21-Oct-2020 17:03:47
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@smartroad

That sounds like a workable plan. If ever a site needed to be archived, it's this one.

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Akiko 
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Posted on 21-Oct-2020 17:06:49
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If it means the website won't look right on iBrowse then perhaps leave it as is.

These forums are already being squeezed by Facebook etc, making here less appealing to classic Amiga users will only have a negative impact.


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Posted on 21-Oct-2020 17:13:33
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@MEGA_RJ_MICAL

And yet they still hack it and pretend we’ve been compromised and attempt extortion! One day they’ll con one of us probably that chap that gave the Viva Amiga team money no strings attached!



G5!!!

Last edited by BigD on 21-Oct-2020 at 06:17 PM.

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@broadblues

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Ensure your password and contact email is unique to this site. Security issue resolved, there is not other data held


Its more than that, vunerability in software could give unpredictable results, malicious software to be installed and run.

Not to mention owner reputation, admin credibility and privacy law requirements etc.

The website is everything, the window to the world and represent how it wants to be seen / perceived to others.

Though you may have a respectable different view, thats fine.

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