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Microsoft to jump into processors affair Posted on 22-Dec-2020 8:26:40
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Re: Microsoft to jump into processors affair Posted on 22-Dec-2020 10:23:45
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What Matthey and .. eh... everyone cannot fathom is why Microsoft isn’t making their own 68k design - ARM? How silly, they of all should know that RISC is a dead end, and CISC is so much better, cycle for cycle! Because Gunnar says so, and he is an awesome CPU designer! _________________ B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC |
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Re: Microsoft to jump into processors affair Posted on 22-Dec-2020 15:59:07
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I look forward to seeing actual hardware vs Press Releases. Last edited by DiscreetFX on 23-Dec-2020 at 02:16 AM. Last edited by DiscreetFX on 22-Dec-2020 at 03:59 PM.
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Re: Microsoft to jump into processors affair Posted on 23-Dec-2020 15:22:41
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DiscreetFX wrote: @AmigaBlitter
I look forward to seeing actual hardware vs Press Releases. |
This is hilarious coming from DiscreetFX which is well known of delivering instead just making press releases. |
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Re: Microsoft to jump into processors affair Posted on 23-Dec-2020 17:06:42
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Re: Microsoft to jump into processors affair Posted on 24-Dec-2020 1:41:12
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I look forward to seeing actual hardware vs Press Releases.
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It's not even MS's press release but speculation from Bloomberg.
Xbox One APU already has an ARM licensed CPU for DRM related workloads.
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Re: Microsoft to jump into processors affair Posted on 3-Jan-2021 18:03:33
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With Apple's recent moves I think we'll see a lot of companies start making ARM processors in the coming years. x86 market is tied by Intel and AMD who won't let anyone use the patents, and seeing how fast and efficient ARM is getting these days it does seem like we'll see a transition to it happen unless x86 CPUs will get some big improvements.
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Re: Microsoft to jump into processors affair Posted on 3-Jan-2021 22:12:20
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With Apple's recent moves I think we'll see a lot of companies start making ARM processors in the coming years.
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Compatibility rules on Desktop CPUs
This was the reason for the demise of PPC, MIPS and other platforms. WindowsNT couldn't save them, it made competition worse. The Microsoft C compilers for PPC where badly ported x386 software, MS Office ran only under simulation and x386 PCs where much cheaper and worked better under WindowsNT.
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seeing how fast and efficient ARM is getting these days it does seem like we'll see a transition to it happen unless x86 CPUs will get some big improvements.
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There was already support for ARM systems in Windows8 and Windows10, but they lacked compatibility. Most ARM systems where optimised for LowPower and not for HighPerformance. That may work for mobile phones, ablets and it could even make sense for servers, where Power consumption is a limiting factor.
Apple's new Mac has the first high performance ARM system (after the Archimedes) but it's only available from Apple. And I don't know how good it will compare to AMD systems under Windows10.
It doesn't depend on Apple, it depends more on its competitors. If Microsoft doesn't support Apple and if other CPU manufacturers doesn't switch to ARM, it will not change much. Last edited by OneTimer1 on 03-Jan-2021 at 10:14 PM.
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