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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 17-Feb-2021 19:26:16
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I do care cause I like to see more Amiga users. The mainstream will be interested if they see new products with the Amiga name, logo. First of all as C-64 mini, maxi did with C-64. It is for sure room for a classic gaming system like Amiga is. It is a great alternative to all the modern stuff. |
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 17-Feb-2021 19:29:14
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| @nikosidis
from a marketing point of view... yes |
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 17-Feb-2021 19:40:48
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For marketing and all the people that just want to buy products that has the Amiga name on it ;)
All is marketing but you know what I mean. People do not like to use MorphOS or AROS cause it does not bear the Amiga name but still just as Amigalike as OS4 is. Last edited by nikosidis on 17-Feb-2021 at 07:46 PM. Last edited by nikosidis on 17-Feb-2021 at 07:44 PM.
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OlafS25
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 17-Feb-2021 20:24:43
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| @nikosidis
yes of course... for some "the name" is more important than anything else. And selling V4 as Amiga 5000 (as example) would certainly help to get public interest |
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 17-Feb-2021 20:38:14
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| @nikosidis
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Colanto seam to me as just the right part to quality control whatever will bear the Amiga brand. |
Well it where longs time sense he actually did any major software development, he funded some Tony’s work, but I do remember any beta test program, not what development he did when did write Personal Paint, I doubt test driven development was poplar back then. Anyway, AmigaOS is many components made by many different peoples, under difference contracts. Anyhow just because he has the right to use the name, does not give him access to Hyperion’s DIFF’s (changes). Or Haage & Partner DIFF’s (changes), nor do I see him being able to taking on coordination role for AROS.
So what have here is paper company. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPKdJGY0YyE
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 17-Feb-2021 21:09:03
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 17-Feb-2021 21:27:27
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Who coordinates what exactly at Hyperion?
And what is Hyperion investing in development?
For a long time they rely on devs doing it for free
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 18-Feb-2021 13:20:58
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Basically what I reported, but in the form of a news article:
AmigaNews (english]
AmigaNews (german)
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Last edited by number6 on 18-Feb-2021 at 01:21 PM.
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 18-Feb-2021 13:39:53
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| So will Jens and IComp drop all Amiga activities? Is P96 the "important OS component" that will be added to OS 3.2? Will Minuous march out of the OS team with high knee steps? What will happen to Reaction? Will Ben Hermans invite me for a beer again?
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 18-Feb-2021 13:54:29
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| @kolla
You left out Thomas Richter. Interestingly for some time on EAB, Camilla Boemann has been making the postings concerning 3.2.
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 18-Feb-2021 16:59:53
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Episode 1245
the big battle ;) |
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 18-Feb-2021 19:00:11
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It looks like amiga.com will finally back up & running soon from this latest news....the OS3.2 thread over at EAB hints that Cloanto/ Amiga Corp. has been 'friendly' with the new OS3.2 release...hmmm _________________ ____________________________ c64-2sids, A1000, A1200T-060@50(finally working!),A4000-CSMKIII ! My Master Miggies- Amiga 1000 & AmigaOne X1000 ! mancave-ramblings X1000 I BELIEVE  |
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 19-Feb-2021 12:01:10
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You left out Thomas Richter.
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Haha, yes I did, how could I - how confusing!
Well, according to Gulliver (who has shown great insight into the situation before), Thomas is busy with P96 (because unlike the "disfunctional company" Hyperion (his words), Jens actually _pays_ him for the work) and private projects (MuLibs, COP, ViNCEd etc), and is NOT anymore developing Amiga shell and its immidiate companion components (console handler, execute etc), though he is still considered part of "the team".
Also, it is now february 2021, 3.2 was "just around the corner" for during the fall last year, only a bit of polishing missing... then it came out that an important OS component was to be included as well (which sounds like P96 or Roadshow) and so there has been delays again - so now OS3 is pretty much exactly where OS4 is, with tons of pointless management overhead, instead of the much more prefered model of components being developed and released in their own pace.
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kolla
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 19-Feb-2021 12:02:33
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OlafS25 wrote: @kolla
Episode 1245
the big baffle ;) |
There, I fixed it for you! :D_________________ B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC |
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kolla
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 19-Feb-2021 12:06:30
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the OS3.2 thread over at EAB hints that Cloanto/ Amiga Corp. has been 'friendly' with the new OS3.2 release...hmmm |
That was never the problem - the problem was vast (utterly baseless) hostility against Cloanto by certain OS3.2 developers, some with "threats" (promises?) of leaving the OS team if Cloanto "wins". Personally, I say "good riddance, Reaction", but others may see it differently.Last edited by kolla on 19-Feb-2021 at 12:10 PM.
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 19-Feb-2021 12:07:18
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I am not sure if that is true 
In any case drama is all what is left today
Regarding Cloanto and 3.1.4 (or 3.2) I think I read somewhere that there is interest to come to some sort of agreement and not kill the project. We will see... |
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 19-Feb-2021 14:08:20
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To be fair to the team when they post things like "just brushing up the NDK" etc....
The team will know where they stand technically in terms of a release. However, they won't be able to speak to the legal side.
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Cloanto confirms transfers of Commodore/Amiga copyrights |
just a minute to listen here
^this could still have been/be an issue for all I know. It should be easy to check current wording in both versions of the OS.
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kolla
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 19-Feb-2021 14:25:43
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However, they won't be able to speak to the legal side.
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And they are not the ones making the calls regarding releases - Hyperion is.
Like I wrote, OS3 is now in the same piss poor situation that OS4 is, more and more components that need coordination before anything will be released._________________ B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC |
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 19-Feb-2021 14:31:23
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Just adding (in case it applies to dealing partially with what I mentioned above) the line from the last court filing concerning what needs to be addressed prior to any settlement. It may seem repetitive, but most only read here once in a while:
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The only tasks that need to be completed are for the Parties to attend to seven ancillary documents, including an assignment and novation agreement, mutual releases, stipulations of dismissal, and documents related to a proceeding in Belgium. In addition, Hyperion requires additional time to confer on one point with counsel in Delaware regarding a security interest. |
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number6
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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021 Posted on 7-Mar-2021 13:06:35
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From my post February 16, 2021:
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Due to delays in how and when updates are applied at uspto, I should add the following, since some might be confused why euipo marks are registered to Amiga Corportation and the document referred to above states Cloanto Corporation:
The assignment from Cloanto to Amiga Corporation was already made, it is just not evident from all current documentation at uspto:
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Another delay, as this should have been completed by now.
In plain english, Cloanto's attorney is asking uspto to do their job. heh.
Section 7 Request Form
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