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Putin, was Red Alert part of the problem?
Posted on 28-Jun-2022 7:42:18
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I was just trying to unravell where the West went wrong in building relationships with Russia in the 90s? It is a difficult one but from everything from Red Alert to Goldeneye we seem to have had a hard time breaking the "Russians are bad guys" profiling. Any thoughts?

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Re: Putin, was Red Alert part of the problem?
Posted on 28-Jun-2022 8:49:49
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What I have learned until now is that Russians are much better than us and today we are in wrong side of the history.

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Quote:
What I have learned until now is that Russians are much better than us


??? I feel that thought out history, nearly every country has its dark past and issues, the west like to portended that where better than everyone, but we have had big mistakes, even not that long ago...iraq war anyone? But at least our history and mistakes are recorded slightly better than a dictator state, where slightly more informed as to what's goes on, its bad that more and more stuff is being kept secret and its a shame that brave whistleblowers are really gone after in the west when really these are usually hero in keeping us the people informed in what are governments are doing.

But remember the few brave that come forward in the west society, and how little we know likely what goes on, its scary to think what could be going on in a country when crime are not recorded by anyone, where whistleblowers are simple just killed.

I feel very sorry for the Uyghurs, that we let China get away with the treatment and simple disappearance of 100,000's of people is a dark chapter in the history of this planet. So dont just think Russia are better just because maybe some of their crime of history have not even been recorded.

Plus its also true the west / media should of moved on from mocking Russia as the enemy, we should maybe made more efforts to make them our friends and modernise Russia. But I doubt this is the main reason Russia dont like the West.

PS: we are stretching the limits of this being Amiga Gaming Related (I know I was kind of guilty of the same with AI image generator, but still I just feel we should try and stay on topic more maybe)

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Posted on 28-Jun-2022 19:51:44
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The Western media giving Putin his catchphrase and delusionary take on his existance:

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Ohhhh squeeze Ukraine for the aaaghh last drop of ooooh pleasure!!!!

We might just be the ones that created this Russian caricature!

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Posted on 28-Jun-2022 19:56:52
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Yeh it was total wrong to create defense alliance at Russian bordar. Imagine how many children the Russian army just had to kill because of that, and woman they just had to rape. And all old people they had to shoot, and all cluster bombs they had to drop. all the homes they had to destroy. And all children they had to make parent less. And all woman they had to force into sex work. imagine if everyone ignored conflict and nothing of that happen, if just turned off the TV or switched to Russian propaganda.

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Posted on 28-Jun-2022 21:41:29
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Doesn't the fact we gifted them the Eurovision Song Contest cover all of this?

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Ukranian National Anthem says it all

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Yes, a good stirring anthem perfectly suited to a war for national survival. However, back to the topic of did we encourage the Russians to embrace the 'bad guy' stereotype; Red Alert 3 was a good cheesy storyline but it encouraged Russia to never let go of Soviet aspirations and to embrace the false greatness of Stalin and the cruel murderous Soviet regime! We chose The Rocky Horror Show's Tim Curry to play the Russian General for goodness sake!



... nice zipped Russian uniform on the left though Very ummm... efficient.

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This is also interesting:

The Truth Behind 14 Russian Stereotypes

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