@broadblues

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No, you can install your own software from ADF etc. as well it's not some locked in system.

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Thats good to hear for those interested in this. I for one dont mind a bit of DIY, so anything that costs more than a Raspberry Pi emulating an Amiga is out for me.

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Maybe you should rethink the case design. 1. The retro market is crazy about cases. 2. Amiga Fans too, even if they should know better.

You're right there. I never intended to get a Minimig and then Loriano Pagni made a case for it, and for some reason I suddenly needed it.

@Rob

I thought everyone just put those boards between two sheets of plexiglass and called it a day!

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@OneTimer1

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1. The retro market is crazy about cases.

AmigaKit seems to be doubling down on packaging rather than cases!

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@BigD

Retro is great and I can fully appreciate the nostalgia for an old case design. That itch has probably been scratched.

We are creating a computer system that plays retro games, but that is not all. Hopefully users can see the value in the non-games software that is pre-installed on it. In particular the serious side of things: the applications and operating system development.

As some have already commented, retro games devices have already been done. Due to the low price point, the A600GS computer gives a wider range of users access to the Enhancer Software components found on high end machines.

The flexibility of having a computer, and not a games console, opens opportunities for new applications and games software development.

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This week I've Bare Metal Emulation - ZX Spectrum I wonder if such kind of approach wouldn't give it the edge over standard emulation such WinUAE which has all an OS beneath it. Apart from FPGA it would be probably the best way to ensure that the overall experience is as closes as possible to the real thing.

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The A600GS will present a lot of the Enhancer Software components only released to date on OS4/PPC. It will also use Amistore which will give the opportunity of new game development offering a revenue stream for Classic Amiga games developers.

Oh no. Won't that mean you will need to buy it on AmiStore and then pay for it on a foreign computer? Last I heard complaints about AmiStore on OS4 was because it needed a web browser that won't work on OS4.

@Hypex

Amistore OS4 currently sends you a direct payment link to your mobile phone or email to pay if you do not have a compatible browser on OS4. With the latest Amistore A600GS we have several new ideas for payment.

Apart from main Classic software section on Amistore, the OS4/PPC section will also be available for A600GS users to peruse and buy. You can then use Updater tool to download the purchased software under My Purchases tab on your X5000/X1000/A1222/Sam 460 etc.

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OS4/PPC section will also be available for A600GS users to peruse and buy.

So, what your saying is that you need A600GS, to buy software for AmigaOS4?

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OS4/PPC section

Yeh.. it makes sense to divide things into sections, not so interesting buy things that’s not working. For your computer, that just create lot of complaints.

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Amistore OS4 currently sends you a direct payment link to your mobile phone or email to pay

That sounds like a solution.

The biggest issue I have had, is that when system is only partially updated, some classes is old, or the install package somehow got corrupted. or for some reason some configuration file is not compatible so, something does not start or crashes or there some other issue. Causing the updater tool to stop working. I have had to download the update tool manually a few times to recover.

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pixie wrote: Bare Metal Emulation - ZX Spectrum I wonder if such kind of approach wouldn't give it the edge over standard emulation such WinUAE which has all an OS beneath it.

Normally I would have thought the same but:

- When Linux runs on a Raspberry PI it uses less than 3% CPU power, you won't win much if you run it without the hosting OS.

- The Raspberry has up to 4 CPU cores so even if one is busy doing the Amiga emulation, the other ones are free for doing Linux stuff.

- When it comes to latency, it depends on how much layers are between the emulated system and the underlying hardware, when done right you won't have much of it.

What a good host OS could brings you:

Modern I/O like Ethernet, Wifi, everything over USB, like serial connections, File systems, USB-Sticks, CD-Roms, JoySticks, Mouse/Mice, Keyboard(s), Audio In, Video In, ... so much more than we could made available over the hosted OS.


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I have seen a bare-metal emulator emulating the C64 om a Raspberry PI, it is impressing how much drivers for HDMI and Filesystems it has:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53wHr415LPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4_-2U_dQLA


Links for emulators
ZX spectrum; ZXBaremulator
https://zxmini.speccy.org/en/index.html

C64, PET. BMC64, BMC128, BMVIC20, BMPLUS4, BMPLUS4EMU (Pi3), BMPET
https://accentual.com/bmc64/

Macintosh: Ultibo-Mini_vMac
https://github.com/noshbar/Ultibo-Mini_vMac

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@pixie

But then the whole fancy frontend with the online store wont work,

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@kolla

This can be solved with simple link to shoplifty (QR code),
Or perhaps having some kind virtual currency, that you can buy stuff with,
so don’t have do so complex operations on the Amiga.

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But then there’s no need for any A600GS.

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@kolla

Well I guess idea is to promote software, and make easy to buy, like with Spotify or some other Steam or whatever, if its more convenient to buy software, there is no reason to pirate software.

Personally, I think its bit too late to think about this stuff, should have done a long time ago.
Yeh, lemon Amiga can been perfect place buy software, with few changes, and few deals.

I agree did not need to be a program running on your Amiga, it be simple webpage.

I guess what does offer, regarding the updater tool, is way to get some fixed and patches to your games, after release, lets say there is a bug on the last level of the game.
(Remember lots of Amiga games where simply too hard to play, so people cracked the games, to make games easier to play. that can also be avoided.)

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Screenshot of version of A-EON's OctaMED v7.9 working well on the A600GS in 1080p. It has a few more functionality changes to be made before it is bumped to V8:



AmiBench programs:

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@amigakit

what exactly hardware is based this A600GS?

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So does A600GS support MIDI?

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Our developer tested the A600GS preloaded with A-EON's OctaMED v8 and a USB to Midi cable. it succesfully played through his MIDI equipment and he was able to edit the Midi generated tunes.

@seiya

It is powered by ARM processor. We have plans for a native ARM Blitter module and some other key components to be running natively on the ARM processor.

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When is this sexy mini beast shipping?

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