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ppcamiga1 
what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 15:21:28
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So what is wrong with pistorm
what real swith to arm should look
who shoud made it

1. pistorm change amiga into expensive mouse and keyboard interface for rpi
it is stupid waste of time and money
amiga mouse and keyboard were copied from pc 40 years ago
what the difference what pc mouse and keyboard are used
just use rpi and linux

2. em68 is emulator. emulator will be always few times slower than native code.
no reason to use it just use native code.

3. it change one and only thing from original amiga hardware that is still important.
original amiga was not a pc and not use pc cpu.
aga may be changed to anything it is just dumb framebuffer.
only cpu other than in pc matter.

4. it is hidden switch to arm.
what is wrong with this hidden switch to arm.
cpu is switched but still there is no memory protection, no multi core support, no unix compatybility, no drivers.
this is pure bs in 2024. no reasons to use this crap pistorm and emu68.
use linux on rpi.

what sholud be done instead of wasting time on pistorm and emu68.

decent open source amiga solution, amiga gui and graphics on top of unix

who should do that

szulc, szonwejs, karlos, agami and rest of morons that has problems with ppc

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Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 15:37:16
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Can someone actually make any sense of what's written above?

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Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 15:56:37
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@ppcamiga1

1. "amiga mouse and keyboard were copied from pc 40 years ago"

Read https://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer_keyboard

The keyboard of the 1981 IBM PC 5150 is commonly referred to as the "PC XT" keyboard, although it pre-dates the XT. It was based on the Datamaster keyboard


https://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_5322_System/23_Datamaster_computer

Modern PC's keyboard layout was based on IBM Model M i.e. the same IBM vendor for PowerPC.

IBM inserted "PC" with POWER series CPUs as IBM's attempt to be the PC's successor.

You're a hypocrite.

4. Emu68 has multi-CPU core support, the problem is AmigaOS 3.x code base.

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Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 16:12:06
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@ppcamiga1

For example, PiStorm-Emu68 AmigaOS 3.x runs legacy Deluxe Music 2 which can't be said for Classic and SAM460 AmigaOS 4.1 FE (when RuninUAE is disabled).

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cpu is switched but still there is no memory protection, no multi core support, no unix compatybility, no drivers.


Emu68 has multi-core support i.e. the problem is AmigaOS 3.X.

Emu68 has basic drivers for Broadcom P96 RTG and an accelerated 2D driver is coming.

CoffeineOS (AmigaOS 3.9 based) has out-of-the-box WiFi and TCP/IP stack support for my recycled Prism PCMCIA card.

Hyperion's AmigaOS 3.2 needs out-of-the-box RTG and TCP/IP stack.

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Karlos 
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pixie wrote:
Can someone actually make any sense of what's written above?


No, but I think the problem is that the thread title is wrong. It should read: "what is wrong wiht ppcamiga1" [ sic ]

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Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 17:35:52
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@ppcamiga1

Quote:
who should do that

szulc, szonwejs, karlos, agami and rest of morons that has problems with ppc


I don't fucking care what you want me to do with my free time. Get off and stop insulting me and others.

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Karlos 
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Don't feed the moron!

Quote:
but still there is no memory protection, no multi core support, no unix compatybility, no drivers.
this is pure bs in 2024. no reasons to use this crap


See? He's actually talking about his PPC/NG there.

Quote:
decent open source amiga solution, amiga gui and graphics on top of unix


He didn't get the memo about AxRuntime, clearly: https://www.axrt.org/

Last edited by Karlos on 18-Jan-2024 at 06:17 PM.

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Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 18:44:10
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@ppcamiga1

Oh no you can't configure your PiStorm!!! When you've learnt the use of standard English we'd be happy to help you.

P.S. I'm a bit surprised as I thought your computer desk doubled as a shrine to the obsolete CPU the PowerPC! Well done on trying something new and growing to be more open minded! It's such a shame that for whatever reason setting up a PiStorm is currently beyond your capability!

Last edited by BigD on 18-Jan-2024 at 06:46 PM.

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kolla 
Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 19:02:06
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@ppcamiga1

Noone here has any propblem with PowerPC except you :)

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Posted on 18-Jan-2024 19:05:27
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Shall we change the topic in whats wrong with ppcamiga1 ?
Or just ban him this is getting beyond annoying and childish to say the least.

Oh and btw.. PiStorm rulez!

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redfox 
Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 20:47:10
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@ppcamiga1

Do you just like trolling? Your other thread is 37 pages long.



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OneTimer1 
Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 20:51:32
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@ppcamiga1

Quote:

ppcamiga1 wrote:

So what is wrong with pistorm


Main issue: You still need an Amiga to use it.

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Karlos 
Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 21:01:11
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Gotta hand it to the guy, be knows how to get a bite, lol

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Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 21:23:51
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@pixie

Quote:
Can someone actually make any sense of what's written above?


Let me translate it for you:

"I am very angry that pistorm is popular."

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Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 18-Jan-2024 23:01:55
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So ppcamiga1 is a tad frustrated that his strongly held views on PPC & Commodore designed Amigas appear to be shared by pretty much no one! Maybe 8-10 years ago he would have had some kindred spirits but things have moved on.

I'm feeling slightly sorry for the guy it seems to have become ppcamiga1 against Amigaworld!

@ppcamiga1
Your really not doing yourself (or your views) any favours attacking one of the most positive developments for Classic Amigas in the last 30 years! Reality is PPC is a dead duck going forward & unlike Commodore designed Amigas there is close to zero nostalgia (memories of various delays & hardware issues would dampen what little nostalgia there may have been for some). AROS is a good option for those who want to use more powerful & modern hardware. There maybe perfectly logical things that you prefer about OS4 & PPC so no need to change but pretty much everyone else has accepted we are close to the end of the road for PPC Amiga. Hopefully your come to terms with it sometime soon.

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kolla 
Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 19-Jan-2024 0:36:39
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@Mr-Z

Banning is boring.

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@V8

Quote:
V8 wrote:
@pixie

Quote:
Can someone actually make any sense of what's written above?

Let me translate it for you:

"I am very angry that pistorm is popular."

Superb

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g01df1sh 
Re: what is wrong wiht pistorm
Posted on 19-Jan-2024 21:33:43
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Nothing is wrong with Pistorm

Pistorm emulates CPU only + gives RTG if you want to have hi res workbench and productivity apps. All games still run via Amiga chipset cant say the same for PPC and its limp selection of PPC games / apps. Audio is still also coming from paula and not the Pi.

Only thing I wish for on the pi is wifi hard coded.



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Posted on 19-Jan-2024 21:46:14
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@g01df1sh

Are you saying you can't run 68K on WarpUP or PowerUP?
or AmigaOS4.1 Classic / MorphOS for BlizzardPPC / CyberStormPPC.

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Posted on 19-Jan-2024 21:46:22
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@g01df1sh

It might eventually get those, and real Amiga drivers, banging real hardware from Amiga side.

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