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death of the floppy is here Posted on 31-Jan-2024 23:32:52
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 1-Feb-2024 1:54:29
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Retro Amiga 68K games have shifted towards the WHDLoad format. _________________ Ryzen 9 7900X, DDR5-6000 64 GB RAM, GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Amiga 1200 (Rev 1D1, KS 3.2, PiStorm32lite/RPi 4B 4GB/Emu68) Amiga 500 (Rev 6A, KS 3.2, PiStorm/RPi 3a/Emu68) |
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 2-Feb-2024 0:20:50
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Retro Amiga 68K games have shifted towards the WHDLoad format. |
The what? To call it a “format” is stretching the concept of file format too far. And to install or create WHDLoad versions of games, floppies are even sometimes a necessity._________________ B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC |
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 2-Feb-2024 1:11:19
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Retro Amiga 68K games have shifted towards the WHDLoad format. |
The what? To call it a “format” is stretching the concept of file format too far. And to install or create WHDLoad versions of games, floppies are even sometimes a necessity. |
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/format 1. the shape, size, and general makeup. 2. general plan of organization, arrangement, or choice of material. 3. a method of organizing data (as for storage).
The word format existed before the computer industry's "disk format" usage.
I didn't state "disk format".
Last edited by Hammer on 02-Feb-2024 at 01:12 AM.
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 4-Feb-2024 12:31:41
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That essentially means it requires a package of files installed on the system. As well as ROMs in the right places. To run the game in a VM. So not a very portable format. An LhA with a game that runs out of the box all self contained would make a better package format. Last edited by Hypex on 04-Feb-2024 at 12:32 PM.
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 4-Feb-2024 13:01:36
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Floppies are great, especially when you stumble across one you've forgotten about. My Big Box Amiga is a bit clunky with HD installs of some of these old games but if you get a problem you run them from floppy then it's easy sailing! _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 4-Feb-2024 15:30:30
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/format 1. the shape, size, and general makeup. 2. general plan of organization, arrangement, or choice of material. 3. a method of organizing data (as for storage).
The word format existed before the computer industry's "disk format" usage.
I didn't state "disk format".
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And neither did I. So how do you define the WHDLoad format? Anything with a .slave file and preferably a data directory?Last edited by kolla on 04-Feb-2024 at 03:31 PM.
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 4-Feb-2024 16:12:54
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Most floppies with mold/surface dirt can be fixed. There was a guy at an Amiga show yesterday providing a repair service for disks with a microscope and everything! These things aren't dead yet! _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 5-Feb-2024 21:58:17
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 5-Feb-2024 23:25:47
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Its a bit of shame the old floppy disk will go. |
It is. Going from cassette driven 8-bit machines to floppy driven 16/32-bit ones was a revelation._________________ Doing stupid things for fun... |
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 6-Feb-2024 2:53:28
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/format 1. the shape, size, and general makeup. 2. general plan of organization, arrangement, or choice of material. 3. a method of organizing data (as for storage).
The word format existed before the computer industry's "disk format" usage.
I didn't state "disk format".
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And neither did I. So how do you define the WHDLoad format? Anything with a .slave file and preferably a data directory? |
WHDLoad games have their expected layout.
FS-UAE Launcher has special support for running individually zipped (or compressed with LHA) WHDLoad Games.Last edited by Hammer on 06-Feb-2024 at 02:55 AM.
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 6-Feb-2024 6:04:01
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Rather upsetting. Such a big part of my former life...
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 6-Feb-2024 18:32:50
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As I say, the floppies still out there seem to be doing remarkably well if stored correctly! _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: death of the floppy is here Posted on 8-Feb-2024 0:49:40
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WHDLoad games have their expected layout. |
Yes, at least one .slave file, one .info file and a data drawer.
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FS-UAE Launcher has special support for running individually zipped (or compressed with LHA) WHDLoad Games. |
Yup, and for it to work, it needs a “database” that contains all the parameters for all the games. This is essentially what all the big WHDLoad games collections are, databases of “metadata” for whdload._________________ B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC |
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