@jPV

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jPV wrote: @Karlos Quote: Karlos wrote: @ppcamiga1 Wrong. I have the installation media for every version of AmigaOS since 2.04 through 4.1 and MUI was not a standard component of any of them. Unfortunately my cluebat is in storage. Actually, OS4 comes with MUI in its base installation, and several programs included in the Extras directory in the OS installation media do require MUI. I'm not sure if any actual system component requires it, but in any case it is there ready to be used with the "extra" programs or other 3rd party programs user might install. The default MUI preset on OS4 looks similar to Reaction config, so users may not even notice which GUI toolkit they're using if they don't pay attention to it. OS4.0 came with a MUI 3.9 port by Jens Langner and Stefan Burström, and OS4.1 has a later MUI version by Thore Boeckelmann and Jens Maus. AFAIK the only "issue" with the MUI ports on OS4 distributions is that they aren't registered and users should install their MUI keyfile to get full configuration options, but that isn't required either and an unregistered version works just fine in practise.

AFAIK is you don't register MUI you can't enable all its features.

@ppcamiga1

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ppcamiga1 wrote: @Karlos you are wrong mui is standard gui on amiga accept that stop trolling start working on mui clone

MUI was not shipped with my A1200's Kickstart 3.0/Workbench 3.0.

MUI wasn't part of Commodore's Amiga software IP.

MorphOS has MUI, but they just a compatible AmigaOS 3.x clone with a MorphOS PowerPC fork without "The Name(TM)".

Last edited by Hammer on 12-Mar-2024 at 06:35 AM.

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@cdimauro

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cdimauro wrote: AFAIK is you don't register MUI you can't enable all its features.

With AmigaOS 4.1 FE, I didn't even bother customizing its extra bundled MUI since I prefer AmigaOS 4.1 FE's default white/blue/grey GUI look.

I would pay for "AmigaOS 4.1 FE" again on hyper-fast 68K Amiga.

MUI's 8-color MagicWB association is a workaround for my A3000's ECS.

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@Hammer

MUI was shipped with A1200 Surfer package

@cdimauro

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cdimauro wrote: AFAIK is you don't register MUI you can't enable all its features.

You just can't save some certain settings, but everything works otherwise.

Here's what's said in the documentation:
"The unregistered version is not able to save some of the
configuration items of the preferences program. Of course these
restrictions won't affect the operation of MUI applications, all
important values (window positions, screens, system configs) are usable
without registering. Other items will contain reasonable default values.
Even with these default values, MUI applications will be more attractive
and usable as most other programs."

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@Hammer

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Hammer wrote: MorphOS has MUI, but they just a compatible AmigaOS 3.x clone with a MorphOS PowerPC fork without "The Name(TM)".

Excuse me? I don't quite understand what you're talking now? Could you elaborate?

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@rzookol

Again, that's a contribution, necessary to support other contributions with that pack.

My A1200 came with Dpaint IV AGA. That doesn't make it part of the OS.

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@rzookol

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rzookol wrote: @Hammer MUI was shipped with A1200 Surfer package

Escom/Amiga Technologies GmBH's A1200 Surfer pack was on sale in Jan 1996. http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/amigahistory/surfer.html

German advert for A1200 Surfer pack for 1199 DM http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/amigahistory/adverts/surferad.jpg

My A1200 is from Commodore, not from Escom/Amiga Technologies GmBH.

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@jPV

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jPV wrote: @Hammer Quote: Hammer wrote: MorphOS has MUI, but they just a compatible AmigaOS 3.x clone with a MorphOS PowerPC fork without "The Name(TM)". Excuse me? I don't quite understand what you're talking now? Could you elaborate?

Can AmigaOS 4.1 FE PowerPC run MorphOS PowerPC compiled programs?

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@jPV

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jPV wrote: @cdimauro Quote: cdimauro wrote: AFAIK is you don't register MUI you can't enable all its features. You just can't save some certain settings, but everything works otherwise. Here's what's said in the documentation: "The unregistered version is not able to save some of the configuration items of the preferences program. Of course these restrictions won't affect the operation of MUI applications, all important values (window positions, screens, system configs) are usable without registering. Other items will contain reasonable default values. Even with these default values, MUI applications will be more attractive and usable as most other programs."

OK, thanks for the clarification. The registration doesn't look that important.


@Hammer

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Hammer wrote: @jPV Quote: jPV wrote: @Hammer Excuse me? I don't quite understand what you're talking now? Could you elaborate? Can AmigaOS 4.1 FE PowerPC run MorphOS PowerPC compiled programs?

No. They have different APIs and ABI.

@Hammer

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Hammer wrote: @jPV Quote: jPV wrote: @Hammer Excuse me? I don't quite understand what you're talking now? Could you elaborate? Can AmigaOS 4.1 FE PowerPC run MorphOS PowerPC compiled programs?

No, but I didn't understand you meant that with "just a compatible AmigaOS 3.x clone". After all, MorphOS is more than just a 3.x clone...

And I still don't understand what do you mean by "a MorphOS PowerPC fork", fork of what or from where? MorphOS hasn't been available on other architectures...

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@jPV

wasent early morphos available for 68k?

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@noXLar

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noXLar wrote: @jPV wasent early morphos available for 68k?

No, it was (and is) available for systems with CyberStormPPC and BlizzardPPC.

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@kolla

ah..right..thats what i remembered.. thanks

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@kolla

2.x version only. 3.x was demonstrated, but never publicly released for PPC equipped Amigas.

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@vox

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vox wrote: @kolla 2.x version only. 3.x was demonstrated, but never publicly released for PPC equipped Amigas.

Not 2.x either, MorphOS 1.4.5 is the latest you can get for those (link).

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