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Poll : Is OS 4.2 fee OK
Yes, you sponsored AEON and Friendens bros
Yes, koz you are sucker for investing 2000GBP plus imports
Yes. because its AmigaOne
No, but you are too late to refund
No,money is money
Yes becuase you prepaid Amiga stuff before
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vox 
Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 14:18:50
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Dear x1000 users,

if you recall page 5 of x1000 quickstart guide, like here
https://intuitionbase.com/sites/default/files/2024-08/x1000_quickstartguide.pdf

https://www.kupujemprodajem.com/kompjuteri-desktop/retro-kompjuteri/retko-amigaone-x1000-quickstart-guide/oglas/173672569?filterId=436

Sais
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Your “First Contact” AmigaONE X1000 system is supplied with AmigaOS 4.1 Update 5 and a license for AmigaOS 4.2 which can be downloaded from the Hyperion Entertainment website when it is released.


Signed by Trevor, alias ppcamiga1

If you recall a bit more this was a separate payement like OS 4.1 and enhancer are.

We never got product, never will and are never repaid.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 14:50:25
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What are you smoking, vox? Move on already.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 14:57:24
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@mbrantley

Good sensi, natural.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XbKg1He9Kc
But me nah hustle and cheat

Nah, thieves remain thieves.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 15:03:06
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@vox

The offer of 4.2 was made by Hyperion Entertainment who were partners of the original A-EON Technology CVBA company. You should contact them and ask where OS 4.2 is ?

A-EON Technology Ltd produced the later X5000, A1222+ and are nothing to do with Hyperion or the CVBA company. Due to the problems and delays with OS4 development, A-EON Technology Ltd was forced to create the Enhancer Software to be able to release the X5000/A1222+.

AmigaKit Ltd has nothing to do with any of the above.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 15:05:05
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@amigakit

Tried., it does not work.

We ll see how court mehanism works.

You have charged I for undelivered product 10 years ago.
I believe I have right to refund from you.

Please refund to pay pal vojinvidanovic@gmail.com exact amount charged
or point my to UK court with your legal data.

Also, restore my history and let me know if A600GS can be expanded
to computer sys e.g. using A3000 style case

Last edited by vox on 17-Nov-2024 at 03:20 PM.
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Last edited by vox on 17-Nov-2024 at 03:05 PM.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 15:24:04
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@vox

whatever you think you bought and paid for, look in the documents. I am pretty sure that it was there in a way, that you would not have a chance to get money back, And your X1000 worked so you will never get all money back, even without 4.2-

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 15:25:49
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@OlafS25

Its not x1000 I am refunding just OS 4.2 part.

I ve tried refunding full x1000 but I already had it for year
and guarantee was crazy low, so AmigaKit was right there. Here is not.

Its undelivered product, dont trick I.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFLXYGWAyL4&ab_channel=RasVoja%60sRasta%2CRetroandResistancetoBabylon

By every consumer right including UK I have right.

Beta OS was delivered, final OS 4.2 never done.

After that because of that I paid Enhancers, drivers, OS 4.1 FE which
I will present as loss because of OS 4.2 undelivered

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 15:31:11
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@vox

undelievered depends what you was promised to get. I do not know and cannot remember the details. If you want you have to contact an attorney. Nobody will you voluntary give you anything.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 15:34:32
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@OlafS25

Promises aren't paid. Its not paid on delivery its prepaid you legal hustler
Yes I will hire attorney, solicitor or whatever.

Why do you prevent people from exercising rights? Are you a nazi?
https://youtu.be/A-mOgO8I7QY

It would be better to have off court settlement, but I will listen to you.

Stop and think, if I didn't have ground why would @amigakit wash hands pilat stylee?

I will refund from seller THEY REFUND from brothers and big dick.

Since I have all bills and papers I cannot lose, AmigaKit will pay attorneys in the end.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 15:40:23
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@vox

and you have extremely bad behavior. I do no longer talk to you. bye

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 15:43:14
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You too, since you support fraud, shame on you

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 16:15:48
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@amigakit

I ve learned that in small amount claims I can represent myself.

You have 48 hours to decide to refund

otherwise I will start procedure for local court in Kardiff UK
https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money

If video conference is not accepted I will make appearance which will be charged to losing side.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 16:29:35
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@vox

Quote:
Your “First Contact” AmigaONE X1000 system is supplied with AmigaOS 4.1 Update 5 and a license for AmigaOS 4.2 which can be downloaded from the Hyperion Entertain­ment website when it is released.


The key is on when. You got AmigaOS 4.1 update 5 and a license. Nowadays people are owners less and less. It's licenses.

When did you buy X1000? What bells and whistles do you need off 4.2 that 4.1 update 5 doesn't provide? How does it compares with the overall HW+SW combo you've bought?

Still, the writing was on the wall...

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 16:44:46
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@pixie

2011 approx but I ll have to check papers

In nutshell, full OS that supports HW was never made.

Check OS 4.2 feature list was on AmiWest

So far I bought
AmigaOS 4.1 FE
Enhancer
2D Drivers

All from AmigaKit and its not up to OS 4.2 level

So I claim damages too on court.

Even If I added Enhancer 2 and most recent drivers it would not be
since it promised SMP, OpenGL, 3D on existing card etc.

And OS 4.1 version 5 on x1000 was beta, so full OS was never provided.


Among the highlights of his presentation were the following:

* official confirmation of cancellation of the netbook project
* walk-through of new AmigaOS kernel, X-Kernel, which supports multiple cores
* integration of FUSE layer into OS and support for NTFS coming soon
* an update on Gallium3D progress
* announcement of Update 7 ISO coming soon
* announcement of new SDK with additional SDK update coming shortly

And lastly we've learned that AmigaOS 4.2 will ship as soon as the new Gallium3D layer is complete and stable. A tremendous amount of work has been done 'behind the scenes' to make the new kernel and 3D graphics stack progress in face of having to support new hardware platforms as well as personal health problems of key development team members. Nonetheless the light at the end of the tunnel is being seen at long last.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 18:27:29
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@vox

I see, thanks for clarifying. Why some keep doing business with Hyperion I have no idea. They develop an OS on shady grounds, the developers aren't even paid. Who are people paying? An entity who declared themselves to be the owner of the OS?
We have a saying in Portuguese "ladrĂŁo que rouba ladrĂŁo tem 100 anos de perdĂŁo*" given that piracy was the downfall of Amiga perhaps there's a masterful sense of irony, of releasing a product which when pirated, makes no harm to their creators. Only Amiga...

*"A thief who steals from a thief gets 100 years of forgiveness"
Something like: no honor amongst thieves

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 19:39:00
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@vox

Quote:

* official confirmation of cancellation of the netbook project


there are 5 different projects..

1. The Rabit hole project (not a Hyperion project).
2. Unoffical project by hans.
3. The PCC function project work in progress, (they do not have a AmigaOS license, yet)
4. one of the brothers talked about soldering one once, I think that was a joke.
5. LimePPC laptop, as far as I know never official support by AmigaOS.

Quote:

* walk-through of new AmigaOS kernel, X-Kernel, which supports multiple cores


Work in progress, se last AmiWest videos, about SMP support.

Quote:

* integration of FUSE layer into OS and support for NTFS coming soon


Already support in AmiaOS4.1 Final update 2.

Quote:

* an update on Gallium3D progress


that’s kind of covered by Enhancer, sure it be nice if they did what they where saying they where going to do, but considering the limited development resources, I doubt that’s a priority now, with Warp3D Nova and OpenGL ES done.

Quote:

* announcement of new SDK with additional SDK update coming shortly


AmigaOS4.1 final update 3 is coming soon, perhaps they should call it AmigaOS4.2, that might solve your problem.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 17-Nov-2024 20:15:02
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@pixie

In Arab countries hand that steals is severed. You get more disabled people, but no thievery.

Anyway, hope it Serves them right (Trevor and brothers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd7Zgk2ktGk&ab_channel=RasVoja%60sRasta%2CRetroandResistancetoBabylon

@NutsAboutAmiga

Thanks for breaking it down, I cant find better OS 4.2 feat list because they did remove
a lot.

Point is I paid for OS 4.2 and every x1000 user did.
Instead I had to pay again for FE, Enhancer drivers that did not match OS 4.2

You understand what is refund and that this is eligible.

Even AmigaKIt does not dispute this above, as Amigans do (that is thief support)
they just shift blame.

But by laws anywhere whom I paid owns me refund. They can chase Trevor and brothers.

Best I can do is e.g. paying for A600GS less for OS 4.2 paid license, but AmigaKit doesnt offer even that.

Its interesting to note AmigaKit deleted support tickets and my purchase history (or I did?)
anyway, its not present at my acount at .com website and used to be on co.uk

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Posted on 17-Nov-2024 20:37:01
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@NutsAboutAmiga

Quote:
LimePPC laptop, as far as I know never official support by AmigaOS.


It definitely was supported, even if not the point of being usable.



It was cancelled because by the time they got to making a deal with the manufacturer it would have cost about three and a half times more than they initially sold for.

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@vox

Quote:
In Arab countries hand that steals is severed. You get more disabled people, but no thievery.

That's not the gist of the saying.

And if you think that there's no thievery... If somehow you think there's a perfect solution. Saddam didn't steal I guess, it was all handed to him.

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Posted on 17-Nov-2024 20:48:44
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I believe that the original company(A-eon belgium) that made the X1000 is now defunct, that is, no longer alive. And you're probably way too late to claim any damages, since it's been 10 years. Also, I believe you've sold your X1000 lomng time ago?

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