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deakmann 
OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 19:55:28
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Hi,

Now I nearly have my hands on the developer release (cheers to all involved), I wonder what the timetable is for the missing bits? From what i`ve read here`s my deduction:-


altivec support - Finished but not released yet

ide dma drivers - Finished but not released yet

usb stack - up and running but still problematic , not clear if it supports more than just mice and keyboards ATM.

Native graphics system - from hints around here a week or so ago i`d say this is now working but there`s plently of testing to be done.

JIT 68k emulation - working for testing purposes but far from ready enough to release

SNAP graphics - as I understand it the authors need to port it to LInux PPC before Hyperion can port to OS4, so I guess this is still some way off

Floppy support - I guess this is a spare moment project like altivec

Warp3D - being ported to PPC ATM , i`m not clear whether 68k version works


This is just my best guess, anyone in the know want to put me right?

Have I missed anything?


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Rogue 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 20:09:36
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@deakmann

Altivec, IDE DMA: Yes.

usb: Supports Mice, Keyboards, mass storage (usb sticks, flash card readers, most modern cameras), HID devices (joysticks, pads, steering wheels, AmigaInput driver in the works).

SNAP: The system already runs on LinuxPPC and the AmigaOS 4.0 port has already begin.

Floppy: Almost finished.

Warp3D: Ported and functional. The reason it isn't released yet is mostly a crash when flushing the library, and the fact that old 68k program scannot use it yet due to the lack of a 68k jump table.

Native graphics system: In alpha testing for the developers. Mostly done, but needs a bit of polish to go off into beta test.

JIT: Mostly functional using the apprunner. What doesn't work is automatic starting of applications. Going to be tackled soonish.

Timetable for all the above:

Or rather, when the individual bits are done.

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deakmann 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 20:20:14
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@Rogue

Wow! Everthing`s coming together very nicely :)

Thank you for all the hard work, and such a detailed answer.

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Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 20:45:00
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@Rogue

Hmmmmm......that looks very good. With that list done, a real release of OS 4 looks like to be possible at the end of this year.

I hope there is also time for optimization like assembly optimized math libraries.

Can't wait for the real release too. I bet it would be fantastic playing games on the A1.

EDIT: Now where's that 1,4 GHz G4 processor module.

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ssolie 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
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@deakmann
I find your lack of faith disturbing.

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hnl_dk 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
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@Rogue

wow

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samo79 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
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@Rogue

Well done Hyperion's





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hotrod 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 20:56:45
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@Rogue

So I guess that the IDE-driver will be released in an upgrade on your page soonish?

I think that DMA and Altivec are important for developers.

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RedMelons 
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@ssolie

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/2845/starwars/sw_sound_lackoffaith.wav

This page is not available?
This file does not exist?

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alx 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 21:14:25
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@RedMelons

Works fine here - if you're having problems for some reason, getting SAY to say "I find your lack of faith disturbing" will probably have a similar effect

@Rogue

Great - things really sound like they're starting to all come together nicely for the final release

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Zender 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 21:17:06
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@Rogue

Really great news !

Thank you again for all these good works!!!

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Zender 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 21:19:20
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@alx

Yeah!

Sure but the final release will be "ready....
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...when it's done!!! "

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Bean 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 21:20:30
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@Rogue

Sounds great! If only the developer CD would arrive here in the UK! sniff... sniff...

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Giovanni 
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Posted on 8-Jun-2004 21:31:37
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@Rogue

Thanks for the update Hans-Jörg! Sounds very good to my ears

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MagicSN 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 21:36:34
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>@deakmann
>
>Have I missed anything?

AmigaInput: Calibration GUI for Analog Sticks (currently in works), Drivers for Amiga Classic
need some updating (no big issue, though), USB Driver still in works

Steffen

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dimmck 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 21:40:23
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@Rogue

Quote:

Rogue wrote:
@deakmann

Timetable for all the above:

Or rather, when the individual bits are done.


All sounds great. I trust your last line means that as pieces become stable the patches can be downloaded from your site???

I hope so.

Dave M.

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Fancia 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 22:03:23
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Good job on all of the work, Hyperion! It's great that things are progressing so well.
Any chance of USB support becoming an update for the developers' prerelease anytime soon? I use a USB mouse, and it would be convenient to not have to dig out my PS/2 adaptor. ;3

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Deniil715 
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Posted on 8-Jun-2004 22:09:18
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@Rogue

This sound very nice indeed!

But I kind of got stuck on this:
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Native graphics system: In alpha testing for the developers. Mostly done, but needs a bit of polish to go off into beta test.


Still in alpha??? What does that mean??
Is this the P96/Intuition thing that we have heard is 95% done for 2 years? (no offence, just sounds a bit wierd in my ears as the pre-release is actually here (almost anyway)).

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FuZion 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 22:13:00
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@Rogue

Cheers for that info Rogue. I love that kind of detailed info.

FuZion.

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Rogue 
Re: OS4 the missing bits?
Posted on 8-Jun-2004 22:36:42
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@Deniil715

Quote:
Still in alpha??? What does that mean??


It means that there is no beta yet for the beta testers. It's in a state where the guy responsible says on the developer mailing list "BTW, I have uploaded x to the developer site, please test".

Quote:
Is this the P96/Intuition thing that we have heard is 95% done for 2 years?


No. Intuition and P96 are separate things, and don't have anything in common. Intuition is native since quite some time, but P96 only turned PPC recently.

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