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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 9:49:57
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| Great news, i see also on your page the netbook project.does AROS on netbook now work too fully ?
Here AROS can have too advantages to other OS, because its small, a fast small OS with fast Software go faster in idle, so battery life is longer fewer Cache usage let sleep the Cache segments longer and all in all the netbook can live longer because a battery have limit charge and uncharge times Last edited by bernd_afa on 22-May-2010 at 09:52 AM. Last edited by bernd_afa on 22-May-2010 at 09:51 AM.
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 11:40:08
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| ; ) Great stuff! Really! I need some weeks for a counter : ) Guys buy it! Sure you can save some bucks, but all of us would profit if people like Stephen would get honored. _________________ AROS Broadway - AEROS - Aminux - AmiCloud - indieGO! Appstore - AmiWallet - VAN lossless video codec - AMC Amiga media Center -KrypUnite - LibertyNet - MinX - amigaNX
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 11:58:29
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| Great Job, Stephen! _________________ AmigaOne X5000/40, 2.2 Ghz, 4 GB RAM, Radeon R9 280X, M-Audio Revolution 5.1, 240 GB SSD
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 12:13:16
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| Excellent News! _________________ John 3:16
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 12:30:19
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| Great job Steve. _________________ Support AROS sponsor a developer.
"AROS is prolly illegal ~ Evert Carton" intentionally quoted out of context for dramatic effect
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 12:46:40
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| WOW! Nice!
"but can also be mounted behind the monitor" OH NO! THat's my idea! (kind of)
_________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer?
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 13:12:40
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| @KimmoK
That makes it a nice option for someone who wants seperate Aros box and an AOS4/MOS machine without the desk clutter. Add some form of remote desktop software and you have a nice clean desk with the option of playing with both at the same time.
come to think of it that just may be the route I go in the future. _________________ Support AROS sponsor a developer.
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 13:56:32
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| Great job, will it be faster than MorphOS 2.x on a Mac mini? My tests with AROS on x86 were quite disappointing (last time I tried was last weekend). |
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 14:36:14
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 15:45:40
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| @clusteruk
You certainly weren't silent in that video
Just pulling your plonker, another great vid my friend. _________________ Amiga A1200, 3.1 ROMs, Blizzard 1230 MKIV 64MB & FPU, 4GB DoM SSD, Workbench 3.1
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 16:04:18
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| Netbooks should be supported when released, I sent a unit to Michal to hopefully iron out glitch. This will not change the tft panel setup as we have the correct aspect ratio but if you plug into a monitor you can change the resolution.
All in all a good job and again thanks for the support, it means more than you may realise. _________________ Amiga 1000, 3000D Toaster, Checkmate A1500 Plus http://www.checkmate1500plus.com/
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 17:58:36
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So many reasons, the most reasonable being: AmigaOS is closed source and Hyperion wish that it remains so. |
I don't see any of these factors as barriers to forming a cooperative relationship.
Cooperation doesn't equate to merging code bases, it amounts to a strategic relationship where each party benefits. |
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 17:59:22
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| Good job Stephen _________________ The only spanish amiga news web page/club: CUAZ
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 19:47:33
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| "will it be faster than MorphOS 2.x on a Mac mini?"
Single core Atom 1.6Ghz should be significantly slower than a 1,5Ghz G4 MacMini. _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer?
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 20:26:07
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Apart from the fact that not everything that it's open source is GPLed, as in this case you would be right. OSX uses open source parts, MorphOS itself uses parts of AROS, so there's actually no problem using those parts and close them or even keep them open while rest remain closed. |
My understanding is that MoprhOS uses bits of AROS and AROS uses bits of MorphOS, OS4 may use bits of AROS but don't know if it's gone the other way.
It looks like they at least partially use bits of each other. _________________ Whyzzat?
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 21:51:41
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Single core Atom 1.6Ghz should be significantly slower than a 1,5Ghz G4 MacMini. |
Depends on the applications e.g. 1. Intel Atom has superior FSB compared PPC G4. 2. ATI Radeon 9200 DDR1 64MB AGP4X vs Intel GMA 950.Last edited by Hammer on 22-May-2010 at 09:54 PM.
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 22-May-2010 22:31:30
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Great job, will it be faster than MorphOS 2.x on a Mac mini? |
Atom processors aren't built for performances, but for low power consumption. Comparing them with G4s doesn't make much sense. Anyway, due to similar frequencies, there are good performances in both camps, with some more significant differences from application to application. As far as I can see from my Atom netbook (Acer Aspire One), AROS performs quite better than Linux or Windows on the same machine, with faster boot times and application loading. MPlayer works very well and OWB allows me to reach a web pace significantly before Windows and Firefox do when I boot to the other OS.
Ah, well, I was almost to forget... Steve! What an amazing computer and a great video! And thanks for mentioning me and Icaros. |
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 23-May-2010 8:01:30
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| On the subject of performance, as Paolo said this is netbook performance so do not expect a screamer. However, for most applications, Browsing, media machine, games, it is perfectly suited.
It will also run emulated 68k software at faster than 25mhz 040 speeds so good there.
When I have unit back from Michal I will video the performance for all to see, maybe side by side with my A4000 to compare speeds.
However, this is a fully supported starting block for Aros and the developers are behind this approach to build on. Most advanced users will want more performance and that is cool, I have both.
On subject of MorphOS on 2ghz machine, I cannot comment, I would expect that to be faster. But Aros on the AresOne or iMica Pro 3ghz will probably be way better. But noisier and bigger.
Oh and by the way, please note this is just the start. Last edited by clusteruk on 23-May-2010 at 08:11 AM.
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 23-May-2010 9:47:22
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| I must admit i've tried IcAROS on relatively slow hardware (1 GHz Athlon with 1,25 GB RAM, Radeon 7500), and it felt not as fast as a Pegasos machine (or even an Efika), both with VESA framebuffer and native ATI driver. |
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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S Posted on 23-May-2010 10:22:23
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Interesting, not had a Pegasos so cannot comment. I will video the performance once I get it back from Michal for all to see. If you have any specific tests just pm me with it and if I can I will include on video. _________________ Amiga 1000, 3000D Toaster, Checkmate A1500 Plus http://www.checkmate1500plus.com/
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