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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 7-Jan-2008 12:04:24
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Yes, but Microsoft still has not got Windows running on this hardware... So it's not as straight forward as you imply.
The Amiga OS itself is truly "without modification" - the hardware it runs on is an emulation of the hardware it's expecting which is a pretty amazing feat don't matter how you call it.
I'm still not really sure how AmigaForever adds value to the OLPC but I can hardly criticize the efforts to provide a range of games for the kids to play after school...
At the very least, this is a BIG WIN for the Amiga in PR terms. It does demonstrate how easily Amiga OS could be used with low power/embedded devices etc.
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 7-Jan-2008 12:23:43
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>>They won't steal it and sell it if no-one wants to buy it from them and it makes them no money.
Thieves steal anything and there will always be people who want to grab themselves a bargain.
>>The electromagnetic radiation from WiFi is not proven to cause anyone any damage. An average city has far far far far more electromagnetic radiation from TV and radio stations and you have that whether you have WiFi in your house or not.
That is incorrect. The latest indipendent researches says that people subject to electromagnetic fields are experiencing increasing health problems, especially sleep disruption, headaches, tiredness, behaviour changes in children, epilepsy, nosebleeds, skin complaints, etc. European research is confirming these experiences . Children may be affected by a mast near their school; you may be affected by a mast near your workplace.
Ask yourself why countries like New Zealand, Italy, Austria etc...have lowered the output of their masts and why, if radiation isn't bad for you, the companies who install this stuff have to comply with SAFETY regulations?
Also is it acceptable that until something hasn't been proven to be harmful then we can live with it?
I hate this; so we are supposed to be used as guineapigs until someone finds out?
This is from an indipendent source:"The government (U.K.) received 22.5 billion pounds from selling the 3rd generation licences , and the tax from phone companies is now worth over a billion pounds per year. They are promoting mobile communications and have made it very difficult for local planning authorities to refuse mast applications"
Now ask yourself why! Last edited by TheDaddy on 07-Jan-2008 at 12:34 PM. Last edited by TheDaddy on 07-Jan-2008 at 12:28 PM. Last edited by TheDaddy on 07-Jan-2008 at 12:26 PM.
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 7-Jan-2008 12:25:41
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| >>At the very least, this is a BIG WIN for the Amiga in PR terms. It does demonstrate how easily Amiga OS could be used with low power/embedded devices etc.
Cool! So Amiga Inc. are going to get the rewards for all this and invest in AA2!
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 7-Jan-2008 12:38:17
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 7-Jan-2008 12:51:53
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That is incorrect. The latest indipendent researches says that people subject to electromagnetic fields are experiencing increasing health problems, especially sleep disruption, headaches, tiredness, behaviour changes in children, epilepsy, nosebleeds, skin complaints, etc. European research is confirming these experiences . Children may be affected by a mast near their school; you may be affected by a mast near your workplace.
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Scientific evidence of this is inconclusive as of yet. Where exactly do you find people that are not getting irradiated with UHF photons to compare with? In the countryside? Well, the difference between the countryside and the cities is far bigger than the lower electromagnetic radiation levels.
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Ask yourself why countries like New Zealand, Italy, Austria etc...have lowered the output of their masts and why, if radiation isn't bad for you, the companies who install this stuff have to comply with SAFETY regulations? |
There is a difference between the kW output by the masts and the mW output by a WiFi card. WiFi signals cannot even penetrate thick walls.
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This is from an indipendent source:"The government (U.K.) received 22.5 billion pounds from selling the 3rd generation licences , and the tax from phone companies is now worth over a billion pounds per year. They are promoting mobile communications and have made it very difficult for local planning authorities to refuse mast applications" |
That is mobile phone related and is a different story, there the transmitter is literally next to your brain. Still, no sure scientific conclusions as to what the effect of warming up your cells have been drawn there either.Last edited by Zardoz on 07-Jan-2008 at 12:52 PM.
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 7-Jan-2008 13:35:46
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Yes, but Microsoft still has not got Windows running on this hardware... So it's not as straight forward as you imply. |
Who talks about Microsoft here ? Microsoft has nothing to do with what I was saying...
I just said that I don't see what's surprising (and interesting for that matter) in the fact that Linux+UAE runs on top of this x86 based OLPC computer...
Get AForever bundled with every OLPC and that will be real news.. and somewhat "interesting"... Until then...Last edited by Leo on 07-Jan-2008 at 02:17 PM.
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 7-Jan-2008 13:51:53
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| @Zardoz >>Scientific evidence of this is inconclusive as of yet.
It depends on who is telling you this.
>>Where exactly do you find people that are not getting irradiated with UHF photons to compare with? In the countryside? Well, the difference between the countryside and the cities is far bigger than the lower electromagnetic radiation levels.
That is another reason why I am not adding any extra radiation and it would be nice if more people could do that.
>>There is a difference between the kW output by the masts and the mW output by a WiFi card. WiFi signals cannot even penetrate thick walls.
It's been proved that the hotspots can be harmful to people who sit next to them.
>>That is mobile phone related and is a different story, there the transmitter is literally next to your brain. Still, no sure scientific conclusions as to what the effect of warming up your cells have been drawn there either.
Again it depends who you want to believe. Some countries and indipendent reaserchers have proved that radiations from, mobile phone masts, wi-fi hot spots and wi-fi devices can all be harmful.
You need to understand that I am NOT just talking about heating effects here.
Have a look at this, this is the most comprehensive site I have been following for quite a while now.
http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/
http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/wifi.asp
You are free to believe whatever but why risk it? Last edited by TheDaddy on 07-Jan-2008 at 01:54 PM.
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 7-Jan-2008 14:10:31
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 7-Jan-2008 15:04:28
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 7-Jan-2008 15:14:15
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It's business time again!
Quote: "Intel continues to treat our mission simply as another market," Bender wrote.
OLPC has struggled to win orders for the XO laptop. A rising price tag -- now close to $200, instead of $100 as originally planned -- hasn't helped the group make inroads with cash-strapped governments in developing countries.
Now we have two "good-cause-laptops" competing for a new market! Last edited by TheDaddy on 07-Jan-2008 at 03:15 PM.
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 8-Jan-2008 12:13:18
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Sounds like a fair trade, I'll try and get some kids together to swap for some Amigas
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Re: Cloanto: One Amiga per Child? Posted on 11-Jan-2008 4:11:06
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