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Internet News   Internet News : Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
   posted by tomazkid on 20-Sep-2006 1:23:28 (2882 reads)
Amigarulez is proud to present an interview with Stefan Burström.

Stefan is the creator of the only remaining commercial browser for AmigaOS, IBrowse,
as well as one of the developers behind AmigaOS 4.
You find the interview here

Our older interviews with amongs others; Thomas Frieden, Andrea Palmaté and Álmos Rajnai are found here.

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AmiDelf2 
Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 1:46:14
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Its sad to see ibrowse not beeing developed. Stefan, you should be more
serious about your product. Me and others have paid for this browser, because
its a superb product, but you seem to ignore the users.

AmigaOS4 is nice, but it wont gather any attention without a good browser. Thats
a "required minimum in 2006". With marcik releasing khtml, MorphOS will be a
OS that people will rather use. Is that what you want? How about getting more
developers? Talk with marcik? Get ibrowse developed!

You dont even know when ibrowse will have CSS (ibrowse 3.0)??? What sort of answer is that?

I hope that marcik will make so that you see that ibrowse is something, that you start
to care about it, because now you dont and thats makes me sad as a user of it. Because I
love it. Not because I paid for it, but because its really usefull. But as the world goes on, so
should ibrowse. And I see too bad supportive service here. I wish that Stefans mind was
on getting ibrowse done, rather than skydiving :)

Regards,
Michal


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Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 2:42:43
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Hi,

Firstly, I want to say that the statement below by no means is the opinion of many happy IBrowse users I know.

Quote:
Its sad to see ibrowse not beeing developed. Stefan, you should be more serious about your product. Me and others have paid for this browser, because its a superb product, but you seem to ignore the users.


IBrowse is being developed, maybe not as quick as you would like, but it is being developed.

Yes you have paid for it. Paying for it is no promise of further development, just getting rid of bugs to make it functional at the point at which you paid for it. Stefan has always been very approachable and has never ignored the users.

Quote:
AmigaOS4 is nice, but it wont gather any attention without a good browser. Thats a "required minimum in 2006". With marcik releasing khtml, MorphOS will be a OS that people will rather use. Is that what you want? How about getting more developers? Talk with marcik? Get ibrowse developed!


Speak for yourself (not other users), as for me I have no interest in MorphOS at all. Even if there was no OS4.

Quote:
You dont even know when ibrowse will have CSS (ibrowse 3.0)??? What sort of answer is that?


Yes he does, it will be part of IBrowse 3.0. When IBrowse 3.0 is done.

Quote:
I hope that marcik will make so that you see that ibrowse is something, that you start to care about it, because now you dont and thats makes me sad as a user of it. Because I love it. Not because I paid for it, but because its really usefull. But as the world goes on, so should ibrowse. And I see too bad supportive service here. I wish that Stefans mind was on getting ibrowse done, rather than skydiving :)


I guess you are someone who has all the time in the world, so you don't need holidays and other interests. Please leave Stefan (and the others on the IBrowse team alone, after all IBrowse is a labour of love not a commercial product.

Quote:
Regards,
Michal


Ciao,
Trev Daley

Last edited by Ambo on 20-Sep-2006 at 02:53 AM.


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AmiDelf2 
Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 3:42:22
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Its not a commercial product??? Well, I have paid lots for it,.. same with others. iBrowse is much more commercial than FireFox even. Its in the same position as Opera. They sell it.. Oki, they do it for love.. so that people will became grey when ibrowse 3.0 is out.. Bah...


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evilrich 
Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 3:49:05
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@Trev

Quote:
after all IBrowse is a labour of love not a commercial product

I don't follow your logic. If it's not a commercial product, then why isn't it free?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not against paying for a browser per se. And if the current release of IBrowse serves your needs, then great. It's of no use to me, however. I certainly won't be paying for a browser without CSS support.

AmiDelf is right. The lack of a competitive browser is a serious impediment to using AmigaOS as a desktop platform. Hence I'm writing this in Konqueror on Linux, not an Amiga browser...

Cheers,
Rich

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R-TEAM 
Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 4:09:35
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Hi,

first i musst say, all two posters, Ambo and evilrich have valid points ..

But i think in the long line .. Firefox will run in the OS4 X11 environment
and so .. any other "commercial" Amiga browser is out of the race ..
[and hopefull later full native on OS4 ]

So i have no problem with the slow IB development ..
To AmiDelf2 :

If you think the khtml browser on MOS is earlyer ready as the above writen
options .. you have the freedom to buy an MOS computer and have fun ..
But the port musst first finnished ... the same is going with the OS4 X11/Firefox
port .. so i see no point at your post anyway ..
And as stated above .. you have NOT payed for future relases !!

R-TEAM


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Vader 
Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 8:56:42
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@evilrich

Quote:
Don't get me wrong. I'm not against paying for a browser per se. And if the current release of IBrowse serves your needs, then great. It's of no use to me, however. I certainly won't be paying for a browser without CSS support.


IBrowse 2.4 is a free upgrade for those with 2.x anyway - so it is free in that sense, ie. the next payable version is IB3.0 which will have CSS.

On the otherhand, all updates to 1.x were free, and all updated to 2.x have been free, so there its not like you have had to pay for every release either.

Best Regards,
Dave Fisher

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gnarly 
Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 11:14:56
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Ooh, the Cacao JVM looks interesting. I wasn't aware that was in progress :)


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Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
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Hi Dave

Quote:
On the otherhand, all updates to 1.x were free, and all updated to 2.x have been free, so there its not like you have had to pay for every release either.

That's a good point, and means IBrowse is excellent value for money for existing owners.

I still need CSS, though...

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Mark 
Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 14:41:27
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You're not the only one, I need it here as well, so much in fact I've just had to buy a Mac Mini.

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Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 17:10:55
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@Stefan

I sent a bug report for gdb but didn't get any reply


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Re: Amigarulez interview with Stefan Burström
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 18:02:40
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Yeah, I know. Havn't touched ggdb/gdb for quite a while. There were some lockups that I wanted to wait until the newmem kernel was available before trying to track down.
So the bugreport is received but waiting right now...

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