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Hardware News   Hardware News : IBM gives details on the Power 6
   posted by AmigaBlitter on 18-Oct-2006 8:52:31 (3916 reads)
Without revealing many details, IBM has giveb a little preview of their next generation POWER CPU: the Power 6 family. A complete microarchitecture disclosure is expected at the next ISSCC (International Solid-State Circuits Conference)

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Re: IBM gives details on the Power 6
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yes yes i am the first to ask "where is the AmigaOne news" in this posting....


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if I wanted to know about this I would go to Slashdot. Stop defacing your RSS feed with non-Amiga news, please! it's very annoying .

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If Amiga hardware is about to use PowerPC processors, this is Amiga related news.


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yes yes i am the first to ask "where is the AmigaOne news" in this posting....


Yeah, "news" such as this (posted by you) are much more relevant to the Amiga community, NOT.

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If Amiga hardware is about to use PowerPC processors, this is Amiga related news.


It sure is!

Had already read it through an OSNews-link, though.

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The Power series of processors are often classified as the server chips, so it’s where unlikely that we going to see an Power series CPU in side a Amiga computer, but Power series often becomes the bases for the desktop chips, the desktop chips are cut down version of the Power series.

Remove a core and remove some cache = G4,G5,G6 chips.
The primary target for AmigaOS4.x is PowerPC chips.
The cell family will also be interesting for AmigaOS at least until Amiga Inc can show some thing better? (AmigaOS5) then what we have now (AmigaOS4).


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@AmigaBlitter

I just don't see that link I'm affraid. If it was a PPC processor supported by OS4, maybe, if it was a processor that is used in an Amiga computer ok.

I think we need a general news section here on AW and an Amiga specific section. I may ditch the AW RSS feed from my browser as I want to be notified about Amiga news by the AmigaWorld feed, not PPC news.

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@dan.hutch

As the powerpc is at present the only processor option for Amiga OS4, and as Apple has dropped the powerpc, it is important to know whether the powerpc has a future, and a development plan. This news article provides important confirmation that powerpc provides a viable architecture for future versions of AmigaOS. Would any of us be interested in AmigaOS if we thought that the G4 was the end of the line for it?

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oh no, don't start crying again, I will post further development of THAT project in the near future because you like it so much.

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This is better news for me than the 1000x polls and talks about the neverending
when will os4 be released, when will hardware be released. Which hardware will be released sooner etc. Once ok, 5 times ok, 10 ok..... but then it gets just
boring even if its about amiga.

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you forgot x86


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@dan.hutch

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If it was a PPC processor supported by OS4, maybe, if it was a processor that is used in an Amiga computer ok.


News about CPU’s comes often long before you can buy it for any computer.

If you where post news on about CPU’s that where already used then that won’t be any news at all, so to speak.


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Yeah, "news" such as this (posted by you) are much more relevant to the Amiga community, NOT.

good point hatschi


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This is promessing news for the ppc architecture.


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Now that we are past the "no amiga content"-phase (hopefully)... back to the ppc...

What is this going to do compared to a G5 in speed ? I tought cell was the next step after PPC... didn't really get in to topics about it. (and no I am not going to visit slashdotcom)


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I recognise that this is the future of PowerPC, but how long before a low cost version of this chip appears for the desktop/embedded?

Sometimes it seems like IBM dont want to do anything except make the current chips use less power! And maybe a marginal speed increase from time to time

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What is this going to do compared to a G5 in speed ?

We can only guess here since here since we don't even know if this will lead to a G6 anytime soon(especially since we don't even know when the Power 6 will be here) but if it's any help Wikipedia says this about the Power 5 Quote:
IBM rolled out the POWER5 processor in 2004. The 1.9 GHz version posted the highest uniprocessor SPECfp score of any shipping chip.
so if the Power 6 is running at 5 GHz you can draw your own conclusions.

Add to that, Wikipedia says Quote:
In 2003, IBM introduced a "very heavy modified" single CPU core version of the POWER4 called the PowerPC 970
which in other words sounds like the G5 isn't even based on the Power 5, meaning .................. ?

I wouldn't hold my breath for a G6.

Otoh, if they do make an Intel crusher, and Apple is still making it's OS PPC compatible we might see some new Mac's with such a processor.

And that couldn't be all bad? Could it?


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I tought cell was the next step after PPC... didn't really get in to topics about it. (and no I am not going to visit slashdotcom)

Cell is designed for specific workloads. Existing mainline and custom MIS server applications would require program structure changes for maximising performance on Cell.


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Otoh, if they do make an Intel crusher, and Apple is still making it's OS PPC compatible we might see some new Mac's with such a processor.

None of the major American chip vendors are standing still.


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