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Hardware News   Hardware News : Pegasos 8641D Developer Program Opened
   posted by ssolie on 1-Nov-2006 17:52:44 (2530 reads)
Genesi is pleased to announce that the Pegasos 8641D Developer Program is now open for application at Power Developer.

More information is available here.
    

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weirdami 
Re: Pegasos 8641D Developer Program Opened
Posted on 1-Nov-2006 18:35:10
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woohoo!

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Re: Pegasos 8641D Developer Program Opened
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Genesi and bPlan:


You guys rawk!

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@weirdami

If you have something to say please do. This is just childish and one would say trolling.

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Re: Pegasos 8641D Developer Program Opened
Posted on 1-Nov-2006 19:52:54
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IMHO this cpu is the best choice for the amiga market.

I hope they can achieve a competitive price of less than 600Euros for the board.

And I really hope both MOS team and OS4 team come to an agreement with Genesi so we can enjoy decent hardware capable of running both OS4 and MOS.

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Re: Pegasos 8641D Developer Program Opened
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@ Crumb

Please note that there is a single-core version of the chip as well (thinking in an Amiga context)!

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@bbrv
Please notice how it is done. You have some news or advertising for Genesi you simply hit the "Submit News" button and make a news posting. Simple as that. I hope you found this example useful.


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Please note that there is a single-core version of the chip as well (thinking in an Amiga context)!


If it makes a big difference in cost, then that's all the better. But if it's only a minor price difference, may as well stay with the dual core so that those who want to run Linux also can take advantage of the second core.

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@TMHG

I agree with Herewegoagain. As the cpu will probably be soldered and won't be socketed (It makes a far more stable computer, harder to break), and as the amiga market is quite tiny I would also go for twoi cpus if there's not more than 150Euros of difference between dual and single core cpu versions.

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@bbrv
Please notice how it is done. You have some news or advertising for Genesi you simply hit the "Submit News" button and make a news posting. Simple as that. I hope you found this example useful.

Now that you know how the proper channel to deliver news you're half way there to setup an entreprise of your own!


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Genesi are once again in the process of making new PPC hardware that is suitable for OS4. Amiga Inc is too reluctant to give licenses (or so it seems), and Genesi is too reluctant to apply for a license (or so it seems). I bet we wont see OS4 on this hardware. This really sucks. Each little event, or non-event, is slowly pushing me out of the Amiga scene.

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Why the hell is this posted as news here? It has zero to do with Amiga at all. It is just as related as news about windows. This should have been kept to the forums..

It would be a totally different case if it were to run AmigaOS of some sort..

Last edited by Tomas on 03-Nov-2006 at 12:27 AM.

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herewegoagain 
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Poster: Tomas Date: 2-Nov-2006 19:26:39

Why the hell is this posted as news here? It has zero to do with Amiga at all. It is just as related as news about windows. This should have been kept to the forums..

It would be a totally different case if it were to run AmigaOS of some sort..


Probably for the same reasons that the Troika and SAM hardware were posted as news. They don't run OS4 (not yet anyway) and as we've been told, don't even have a license in place yet. Who knows if they ever will? Sure, it's "in the works" but so were others at one point and then they were denied.

At this point in time, I hardly think that the Amiga community can afford to keep up with this attitude against good hardware that is produced by a company with a proven track record of delivering what they promise. In fact, they seem to be the only one's in this market (other than Hyperion) who have consistently done so.

This is here as a news item because it's hardware that could be licensed to run OS4. It's likely the best spec'd PPC board we in this community are going to see. But mostly, this is posted as a news item because the staff of this site deemed it newsworthy and of interest to the site users.

I can tell you this, I find this much more news worthy and of interest than "news" of a user group smashing an old PC or "The Fart Button" for OS4.

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Why the hell is this posted as news here? It has zero to do with Amiga at all. It is just as related as news about windows. This should have been kept to the forums..

It would be a totally different case if it were to run AmigaOS of some sort..

Probably for the same reasons that the Troika and SAM hardware were posted as news. They don't run OS4 (not yet anyway) and as we've been told, don't even have a license in place yet. Who knows if they ever will? Sure, it's "in the works" but so were others at one point and then they were denied.

You know that the Troika and Samantha boards were built with OS4 in mind. This new Genesi board was not built with OS4 in mind. Thats the only point I disagree with though.

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At this point in time, I hardly think that the Amiga community can afford to keep up with this attitude against good hardware that is produced by a company with a proven track record of delivering what they promise. In fact, they seem to be the only one's in this market (other than Hyperion) who have consistently done so.

This is here as a news item because it's hardware that could be licensed to run OS4. It's likely the best spec'd PPC board we in this community are going to see. But mostly, this is posted as a news item because the staff of this site deemed it newsworthy and of interest to the site users.

I second that. Genesi are making good hardware for us, but everyones refusing to work together (or so it seems).

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I can tell you this, I find this much more news worthy and of interest than "news" of a user group smashing an old PC or "The Fart Button" for OS4.

Theres room for humour and actual news. Those two stories were just to help raise morale in the community. Dont bad mouth my beloved Fart Button. :) Or I'll sit on your head while pressing it. (just joking). :)

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Why the hell is this posted as news here?


This post is not solely aimed at you, Tomas.

Quite frankly, I have become quite agitated having to see arguments thrown back and forth over why this or that new item has been approved, and the ensuing battles such words provoke. If a news item is deemed worthy to be processed by the staff (and there are no further objections within), then you will all just have to live with it. I ask everybody to knock it off. Feel free to either talk about the new hardware's achievements or lack thereof, but please, lay off this incessant whining about why such and such has been posted.


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Probably for the same reasons that the Troika and SAM hardware were posted as news. They don't run OS4 (not yet anyway) and as we've been told, don't even have a license in place yet. Who knows if they ever will? Sure, it's "in the works" but so were others at one point and then they were denied.

The difference is that those projects were announced with the capability of running OS4. If that was the case with pegasos, then i would welcome this news.

I myself think that the pegasos seems like some capable hardware and i would prefer a pegasos2 running OS4 over a amigaone running OS4. But sadly it seems like it will never happen, so that makes this project completely unrelated.

Nothing will change unless someone replace the current management running Amiga INC.

I also think that the news about ps3, microsoft and so on is completly unrelated too and would prefer to see it posted in the forum instead.

Last edited by Tomas on 03-Nov-2006 at 06:25 PM.

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@Thomas

Regardless of the orignal intent for the hardware holds the same value until those other boards until they actually have a licensed OS4 running on them.

To see why this would be so interesting, one only has to read the specs:

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The PCEVALHPCN-8641D design is a MicroATX form-factor motherboard with the following specifications:

* MPC8641D Dual-Core Processor rev 2.0
o e600 cores with 1MB L2 cache
o 600MHz internal bus speed
o DDR2 memory controller

o 4x Gigabit Ethernet ports
o 8x and 4x PCI Express slots
* ULi M1575 Southbridge
o 4x Serial ATA (3.0Gbps)
o 1x Parallel ATA
o 4x USB 2.0 ports
o 2x PCI slots (5V tolerant)
o AC97 Audio
o PS/2 keyboard & mouse

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