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hardware OS4   hardware OS4 : A2000 & PPC Video
   posted by Brian on 1-Feb-2007 22:28:11 (7597 reads)
After a long time of the idea just hanging out there that PPC might work on an A2000 with some alterations we finaly sat down with our hardware and sparetime and tested it... and it worked. :)



After testing it and getting it to work we though a video for others might be enjoyable so we put one together for you available from PePe.8bit.dk.
    

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Raffaele 
Re: A2000 & PPC Video
Posted on 3-Feb-2007 9:25:16
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AMiGR wrote:

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It's not that simple,you will not be able to find many of the parts used on the PowerUP cards anymore, let alone lead-free.


But we have still lots of person talented in hardware who could hack the projects with new RoHS componennts and release a new design.

Sure but we must also consider these questions: Will the project take a short amount of time? Is it economically possible? Is it necessary with the arrive of new hardware?

If you want to try it for yourself and spend time, efforts, and money...

Then AS A HOBBY, all it is possible...

If you find other persons who want to condivide this hobby with you, then it will also MORE fine being in a team or in a club, rather than being alone.

I think that the best solution for all owners of ancient machines, it will be simply an ethernet card which should be REALLY CHEAP and could fit on any Amiga with Zorro slots (2000, 3000, and 4000), another version for A1200, and perhaps a third version for A500.

New Amigas give the horsepower, ancient Amigas could be used to connect new Amigas to TV sets.

You connect thru cable ancient Amigas with new machines, and if you desire to port your graphics on A2000, you just manipulate it with ImageFX to fit A2000 OCS chipset, and then display the image, or the video on a TV...

Or viceversa you can use grab of genlocked images, or MIDI, or 8bit sound sampling to be send to new incoming Amigas again via ethernet.

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But in the other way, Bplan being Phase5 ? ... why never a new revision of blizzards came out if it is all that simple (and needed) .


Lot of problems...

If I remember well, they could choose to CLOSE activity, but instead of that, they choosen to declare bankruptcy, that is really cheaper than closing all activities.

(But my memory could fail.

Is out there any spokerperson from bPlan or former employee of Phase5 who could explain us the very final moments of Phase5 before it closed? )


At least I think it was a wrong move. Doing so, then they officially can't release anything anymore.

If they had had CLOSED the activites they still could officially RE-OPEN it, or giving assistance to the owners of their ancient hardware.

Or else if you sell products by Phase5 or give assistence to the old users of it... then the creditors of former Phase5 could ask money back, if they weren't completely re-funded.

Nowadays a lot of time passed since Phase5 closed, so certainly if some of the people in bPlan have still the design of the expansion cards, then they could release it in public without any problems...

Even if there are still creditors of Phase5 who hadn't received back all the money they ask for... Then these claims could not harm nor Phase5 neither the new company bPlan, because, if I remember well officially any claim of creditors in UE ends after 5 years.

The people at bPlan are actually completely free to give us amiga users any spoil of extinct Phase5, if they want to.

Last edited by Raffaele on 03-Feb-2007 at 09:50 AM.
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Re: A2000 & PPC Video
Posted on 3-Feb-2007 9:40:08
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The source code for the flash bios on the BPPC cards would be a nice treat too.
BBRV what say you ? ;)

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Raffaele 
Re: A2000 & PPC Video
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WOSPUPOS4 wrote:

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The source code for the flash bios on the BPPC cards would be a nice treat too.
BBRV what say you ? ;)


I think that BBRV have nothing in common with bPlan except the agreements they have for the furnishing of Pegasos and Efika hardware.

BPPC flash bios it is entirely property of Phase5 or a property of whom purchased the intellectual properties of Phase5 after the bakruptcy.


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The stopmotion video was a little sideproject I made after all the shooting of the real video was done while Jan was transferring the video data over to the computer for editing... If you know Jan you'd know he doesn't posses that kind of childish humor... no that's all thanks to your's truley.


Hehe, you are ofcourse right, Jan don't have the childish humor to pull that off


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Re: A2000 & PPC Video
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@Raffaele

That would be DCE.....


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Re: A2000 & PPC Video
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I think that BBRV have nothing in common with bPlan except the agreements they have for the furnishing of Pegasos and Efika hardware.


Well... Genesi and Bplan have the same shareholders, so NO, they definitely have more in common than those agreements.

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Re: A2000 & PPC Video
Posted on 3-Feb-2007 12:10:31
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Amazing!

I wish i had one of these to put on my beloved 2000.

i will make a flexible, long wire adaptor for the 060 socket, in order to put the proto board in the backside of the 2060, where is a lot of space, and that way you can keep your units and close the A2000 ( and letting free the 060 slot of the big weight of the proto card )

In my 2000, you can see clearly that there is some space free of slots between the accelerator card and the next-to-it zorro slot. Ideal for holding the ppc card

http://www.amiga.org/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2739

A pair of metal parts will be needed in order to keep the ppc proto card "floating" between the 2060 and the zorro cards. You can screw the metal parts to the A2000 case and the ppc proto.

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Re: A2000 & PPC Video
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I've got an A2000 running OS3.9. It would be nice to install OS4.


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Re: A2000 & PPC Video
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Modifying the drivebay of the A2000 and removing the fan from the PPC (fan seated on the drivebay instead or by use of heatpipes) allows for it to sit the way it does right now actually. Mind you it's the drive bay modification stills allow for both a 5.25" drive and 2 floppys.

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Re: A2000 & PPC Video
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Poster: LaBodilsen Date: 2-Feb-2007 14:00:34

Jan you sly dog!, so you finally tried it.


Yep finally,, and it works yes, you know how long time we have take about it...

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Poster: LaBodilsen Date: 2-Feb-2007 14:00:34
i see i have to up it a bit to beat this little project of yours


I'm wating. You show me yours, before post my new/other project there is in same scale

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@LaBodilsen

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@Brian: The stopmotion video was a little sideproject I made after all the shooting of the real video was done while Jan was transferring the video data over to the computer for editing... If you know Jan you'd know he doesn't posses that kind of childish humor... no that's all thanks to your's truley.


Hehe, you are ofcourse right, Jan don't have the childish humor to pull that off


HEY you two, don't start to get friends..

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ausmeup 
Re: A2000 & PPC Video
Posted on 4-Feb-2007 11:22:03
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Ok , That's Impressive , now when's the A500 PPC Coming out .

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Re: A2000 & PPC Video
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I still remember the not-so-old days when I had my hopes on Escena producing a G3 PowerPC board (or was it a G4) for my A2000 ...

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@Brian

test AOS on PPC


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