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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 24-May-2007 19:36:23
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| Hellloooo, tech news.
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 24-May-2007 19:53:21
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| 2.5 watts?
Uhm... my armpit gives off more heat than that.
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AMCC designed the processor to fit into an overall 15W system-on-chip device. That's about the same power consumption as PA Semi's highly integrated dual-core chip. |
from here
edit2: according to eetimes
the PA6T-1682M from PA-Semi draws 25 watts at 2.0 GHz full load, and 15 watts average and produces 8800 Drystone MIPS.
So they are about equal. with PA6T-1682M drawing slightly more power to be slightly faster. Probably ends up being a matter of taste (or price).Last edited by Insanity on 24-May-2007 at 08:06 PM. Last edited by Insanity on 24-May-2007 at 07:57 PM.
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 24-May-2007 19:53:22
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| I posted the news yesterday on AmigaImpact
On May 21 : - IBM announces the Power6 at 4,7 GHz, for high end servers - AMCC announces Titan, a competitor of the PA Semi chip for a desktop usage - Freescale announces MPC5121e, a 400 MHz SOC with audio and video capabilities for the embedded market
They are the 3 most involved companies in PowerPC and they bring new products : yeaah ! |
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 24-May-2007 22:15:33
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| So how long before ACK scrap their current high-spec design, and go for this processor instead? _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue...
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 24-May-2007 23:04:15
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| I don`t know that they will. It is not clear if switching to AMCC´s new chip would give us a better end product.
Is Titan even available yet? Did not find out from reading the press release. IBM announced POWER6 in January last year, and it was formally launched earlier this month. |
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 0:19:42
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| This is cool . . . Lot's of PPC to choose from . . .
Watch out though, the Pentium na-sayer's will be along any time . . . _________________ Avatar babe - Monica Bellucci.
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 0:31:27
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Watch out though, the Pentium na-sayer's will be along any time . . . |
I prefer Turion 64's personally (especially if they're multicore).
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 8:52:17
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 9:08:12
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| Important note: This is just the core. It's not a chip. Yet.
However, they could wrap it in the basic building blocks of the 440SPe for a start. DDR2, PCIe, PCI-X, Gbe etc. I'm sure everyone here would love that, as it would basically be on par with the 8641D already.
I guess it'll take about a year before we see any chips based on this... _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 13:58:48
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| From the article it seems AMCC`s speed target is Freescale`s e500 core. The 8641D is based on the newer e600 core, I was under the impression that it was faster than the e500, and by extension faster than the upcoming Titan. |
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 14:22:57
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 14:52:25
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| My Oimaga desktop embedded project board with no PCI slots, one serial port and a northbridge made out of some postage stamps and lint I found in my pocket will use this processor!!11oenoneeleven
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 14:54:10
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Fast 14 logic is based on overlapping clocks and a 1-of-N-encoding domino architecture, using small NMOS transistors with no p-channel complementary devices. | sounds quite awesome (even so (and possible just because) I don't understand anything). |
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 16:11:17
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| @Metaball
Didn't say it would be faster. Just that it would be up there in the same league. The 8548 (top of the line e500) has way too little PCIe to be any fun. The 8641D is actually also slower than this, but has a dual core and vector unit... _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 16:30:24
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They are the 3 most involved companies in PowerPC and they bring new products : yeaah ! |
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 16:54:22
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 17:28:58
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I patiently await the arrival of a consumer-friendly, usable OS for a desktop PPC machine (and no, "typing" with the wii dildo in opera on some linux build while standing in front of the TV doesn't count) to prove otherwise.Last edited by TheDungeonDelver on 25-May-2007 at 05:29 PM.
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 17:39:00
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In the context of mainstream computing platforms that's true.
The chatter about wattage and performance is interesting, but all of this amounts to a hill of beans when you consider the state of the platform and the people who manage the business.
Bottom line: the PPC offers no marketability or compelling technical advantages.
If someone can pay $500 for a PC that runs MacOS, Windows and Linux on the same platform efficiency and benchmarks mean nothing. And I'm not even mentioning application support.
If you're designing a module for a traffic light or a game console the argument may be quite different. |
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 25-May-2007 18:06:56
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If you're designing a module for a traffic light or a game console the argument may be quite different. |
Or DVD player, network router, supper computer or some android walking on mars
As longs as the consumer find the product useful, he don’t think about what OS it runs or what CPU that’s in it, it just box that do stuff.
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Re: New high-end enbedded processor Posted on 26-May-2007 10:09:02
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| I can't stand anymore reading about all these new PPC cpus while most of us (including myself) not having a computer enabled to run our beloved OS.. _________________
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