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News   News : IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in Silence
   posted by clusteruk on 21-May-2010 19:05:15 (6289 reads)
The journey that started 18 months ago to create a next generation Amiga on commodity hardware has now reached its first major milestone by becoming a completely driver native Aros system powered by the energy efficient Intel Atom processor. This has been achieved with the supply of hardware and in some cases financial rewards. The plan with the following steps has been to create a base reference platform for Aros and the Amiga community to build on and support.

Step 1: Network driver development by Nick “Kalamatee” Andrews, free to all.
Step 2: HDAudio by Davy Wentzler owned by Cluster UK ltd, free to end users.
Step 3: Catweasel driver development for Aros by Ian Gledhill, free to all.
Step 4: Intel GMA device developed by Michal Schulz and again free to all.

This work would not have been possible without the amazing team of developers working on Aros whose names are long and well respected but room does not allow all their names to appear. Please visit Aros.org for more details. Also a notable mention must go to Paolo Besser and the IcAros distribution that is supplied with all iMica systems.
In between this work other developments have been supported, more news on these later. However, we have also been experimenting with hardware configurations for the best type of iMica system, but it has become clear that one thing was important to all; it must be SILENT.

So now we announce the final iMica Atom system that we believe will achieve all the needs of the Amiga and Aros fan using low cost commodity hardware in a small and SILENT package.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvXhCYdc3aM

This unit is not only power efficient and low cost, but can also be mounted behind the monitor to create a space efficient working area and no wires in front of the monitor when using a wireless keyboard and mouse. However, with its great looks and slim design it is doubtful you will want to hide it away.
This is not the end, this is just Stage 1.

Stage 2, optional case upgrade to hold, PCI Catweasel MK4, Slim DVD and Amiga/Mac/PC compatible floppy disk drive unit. This will be available to all iMica Atom customers.

Stage 3, Well we will tell you about that when we have something to show, but it will make the investment in the iMica Atom system a good investment, and might just inspire old Amiga users to get really excited about next generation Amiga’s including those with other Amiga OS flavours.

My thanks to all of the Aros and Amiga developers who have supported me over the last 18 months.

Stephen Jones
MD Cluster UK Software Ltd
    

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Re: IMICA Atom becomes Aros fully native and celebrates in S
Posted on 22-May-2010 9:49:57
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Great news, i see also on your page the netbook project.does AROS on netbook now work too fully ?

Here AROS can have too advantages to other OS, because its small, a fast small OS with fast Software go faster in idle,
so battery life is longer fewer Cache usage let sleep the Cache segments longer and all in all the netbook can live longer because a battery have limit charge and uncharge times

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; ) Great stuff! Really! I need some weeks for a counter : )
Guys buy it! Sure you can save some bucks, but all of us would profit if people like Stephen would get honored.


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Great Job, Stephen!


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Excellent News!


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Great job Steve.


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WOW! Nice!

"but can also be mounted behind the monitor"
OH NO! THat's my idea! (kind of)


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@KimmoK

That makes it a nice option for someone who wants seperate Aros box and an AOS4/MOS machine without the desk clutter. Add some form of remote desktop software and you have a nice clean desk with the option of playing with both at the same time.

come to think of it that just may be the route I go in the future.


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Great job, will it be faster than MorphOS 2.x on a Mac mini? My tests with AROS on x86 were quite disappointing (last time I tried was last weekend).

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Great news, aros is going from strength to strength


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@clusteruk

You certainly weren't silent in that video

Just pulling your plonker, another great vid my friend.


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Netbooks should be supported when released, I sent a unit to Michal to hopefully iron out glitch. This will not change the tft panel setup as we have the correct aspect ratio but if you plug into a monitor you can change the resolution.

All in all a good job and again thanks for the support, it means more than you may realise.


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So many reasons, the most reasonable being: AmigaOS is closed source and Hyperion wish that it remains so.


I don't see any of these factors as barriers to forming a cooperative relationship.

Cooperation doesn't equate to merging code bases, it amounts to a strategic relationship where each party benefits.

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Good job Stephen


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"will it be faster than MorphOS 2.x on a Mac mini?"

Single core Atom 1.6Ghz should be significantly slower than a 1,5Ghz G4 MacMini.


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Apart from the fact that not everything that it's open source is GPLed, as in this case you would be right. OSX uses open source parts, MorphOS itself uses parts of AROS, so there's actually no problem using those parts and close them or even keep them open while rest remain closed.


My understanding is that MoprhOS uses bits of AROS and AROS uses bits of MorphOS, OS4 may use bits of AROS but don't know if it's gone the other way.

It looks like they at least partially use bits of each other.


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Single core Atom 1.6Ghz should be significantly slower than a 1,5Ghz G4 MacMini.

Depends on the applications e.g.
1. Intel Atom has superior FSB compared PPC G4.
2. ATI Radeon 9200 DDR1 64MB AGP4X vs Intel GMA 950.

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Great job, will it be faster than MorphOS 2.x on a Mac mini?


Atom processors aren't built for performances, but for low power consumption. Comparing them with G4s doesn't make much sense. Anyway, due to similar frequencies, there are good performances in both camps, with some more significant differences from application to application. As far as I can see from my Atom netbook (Acer Aspire One), AROS performs quite better than Linux or Windows on the same machine, with faster boot times and application loading. MPlayer works very well and OWB allows me to reach a web pace significantly before Windows and Firefox do when I boot to the other OS.

Ah, well, I was almost to forget... Steve! What an amazing computer and a great video! And thanks for mentioning me and Icaros.

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On the subject of performance, as Paolo said this is netbook performance so do not expect a screamer. However, for most applications, Browsing, media machine, games, it is perfectly suited.

It will also run emulated 68k software at faster than 25mhz 040 speeds so good there.

When I have unit back from Michal I will video the performance for all to see, maybe side by side with my A4000 to compare speeds.

However, this is a fully supported starting block for Aros and the developers are behind this approach to build on. Most advanced users will want more performance and that is cool, I have both.

On subject of MorphOS on 2ghz machine, I cannot comment, I would expect that to be faster. But Aros on the AresOne or iMica Pro 3ghz will probably be way better. But noisier and bigger.

Oh and by the way, please note this is just the start.

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I must admit i've tried IcAROS on relatively slow hardware (1 GHz Athlon with 1,25 GB RAM, Radeon 7500), and it felt not as fast as a Pegasos machine (or even an Efika), both with VESA framebuffer and native ATI driver.

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@ _analogkid_

Interesting, not had a Pegasos so cannot comment. I will video the performance once I get it back from Michal for all to see. If you have any specific tests just pm me with it and if I can I will include on video.


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