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News   News : Interview with Varisys
   posted by Daff on 15-Feb-2012 6:13:10 (5639 reads)
The Magazine Obligement publish today an interview with Paul Gentle, co-founder of Varisys, the society behind the AmigaOne X1000 motherboard.

He speaks about the society, the PowerPC and the AmigaOne X1000.


Interview in english : http://obligement.free.fr/articles_traduction/itwgentle_en.php
Interview in french : http://obligement.free.fr/articles/itwgentle.php
    

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ROMwack 
Re: Interview with Varisys
Posted on 15-Feb-2012 10:27:52
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Some intriguing "Watch this space" comments there! New machines on the horizon?

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true. But this also means another wait for 2-3 years ...

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Nice.

Best to Paul and all....and, keep'em coming.

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How many Nemo boards were produced before the final revision (2.1)?

A handful of boards were produced to prove that the design was good. I think it was 5.


so, maybe are these the well known "Limited Edition"?

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Sure we need hope...Whatch this space is one of them. I suppose that A-EON like Commodore before will need a cheaper machine to succeed. For CBM it was the A500 I guess it will be the X500 for A-EON. The cheap laptop is also interesting...

Kamel

 
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Nice little intervew.

Cheers!

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From A-EON and HW partners there's coming:
-the xorro card
-the xena for PCI card
-the next X machine
-something else
-xena devkit for AOS4


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@ KimmoK

The ability to chose your own design for hardware is expensive but nice .
The original Amiga way.
Next motherboard inscription should include "The Thrill is Back" .


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@kimmok
now, ist that confirmed fact? because i dont read anything like that in the interview. or is this again a wish disguised as fact?

Last edited by wawa on 15-Feb-2012 at 04:47 PM.

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Yet another Amiga like mystery-I can't / I don't want say interview ..
Only that I read is that procesor and clock of it is known from start...and all mystery about hiding and hiding brand over a year is to get hype...
True question for all parties involved is: When will product be on sale for end users with OS4.2, and roadmap after that?


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From A-EON and HW partners there's coming:
-the xorro card
-the xena for PCI card
-the next X machine
-something else
-xena devkit for AOS4


Reminds me to an old joke about Microsoft:
"From the guys that brought you Edlin"


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@wawa

"From A-EON and HW partners there's coming:
-the xorro card"

This has been said by TrevorD previously ("xorro demo board") and now by Varisys.
(SDK needs to happen first)

"-the xena for PCI card"

By Trevor at Amiwest 2011.
(It also needs the SDK.)

"-the next X machine
-something else"

Trevor said at Amiwest that Varisys is doing (IIRC) three (new) things for A-Eon. One of them being the PCI card and TrevorD will tell more about those other two when the new HW is being betatested(or starting production).
And the rest can be read from Varisys comments (indirectly) above and from the "commitment" pressrelease.
To me it seems: next motherboard is in the works. I predict that in 2013 it could be in betatesting... and that it might have P5020.
(varisys already has some Pxxxx series based HW)

"-xena devkit for AOS4"

It was in previous Obligement interview with TrevorD.
Trevor said that their HW partner is at it / working on it.
And somewhere else Trevor said that someone close to XMOS is going to do the SDK port.

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@thread

For me, the takeaway message from this interview is...

The "X1000" product line will be well supported and have eventual successors in the future. This is a great confirmation of earlier messages from TrevorD.

Both A-EON and ACube are proving to be great partners working in conjunction with Hyperion.

Just keep pushing out those software updates and you will continue to see good support from the community.

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@gregthecanuck

Thanks, very nicely summed up, I could not have said it better myself.

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Poster: kamelit0 Date: 15-Feb-2012 11:49:31 Sure we need hope...Watch this space is one of them. I suppose that A-EON like Commodore before will need a cheaper machine to succeed. For CBM it was the A500 I guess it will be the X500 for A-EON. The cheap laptop is also interesting... Kamel


Yes, I agree that A-Eon needs another computer that is cheaper than the X1000 to keep going, as I don't think sales of the X1000 alone will be able to sustain any business (even though interest appears to be high so far, and the "First Contact" production run sold out in less than 36 hours).

I don't know how long it will take Varisys and A-Eon to design, prototype, test and put into production another new design, but I am sure it will be much quicker than the amount of time it took for the X1000 (which was not really a long time, considering what they accomplished from scratch).

The announced OS4.x Netbook has nothing to do with A-Eon, other than the statement that Trevor made about probably buying one for himself. It is a Hyperion project, not an A-Eon project, and it appears to be what OS4 needs. A entry level computer at a low price (compared to all other OS4.x compatible computers that are offered for sale as new products, not used Peg2 systems).

For users that want something right now, instead of waiting for an unspecified amount of time for something new to be released, there is the SAM440ep/fx and SAM460ex, and should be another run of X1000's within the next few weeks (guessing about the time frame it will take to set up another X1000 production run). For people wanting something cheaper, but still powerful, they should take a long look at MorphOS2.7, or AROS.

Lots of choices in the world of Amiga inspired systems right now and more on the way all the time. Hopefully this will spark more development to begin and we can get more new software, or at least more ports of Linux software, for all flavors of the Amiga experience.

Hard to get that development ball rolling again, after so many years of little activity (compared to the heyday of the Amiga in the 1990's), but at least it appears that there is a chance to see some improvement in our future, now that there are more hardware choices available.


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Its good we will see more things coming from A-Eon, but let the X1000 final with OS4.2 roll first

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"From A-EON and HW partners there's coming: -the xorro card" This has been said by TrevorD previously ("xorro demo board") and now by Varisys. (SDK needs to happen first) "-the xena for PCI card"


Hmmm ... never understand the Xorro/Xena thing completely, one should be just the XMOS chip, other the bus that allows more XMOS add-ons.

Since SAMs and old A1s are really limited with PCI slots, suppose new "A1 X500"
design would need to be withouth XMOS for these cards to have this cards. Also they might be commercialized as PC XMOS expansion, as only one seems to be USB one.

Number of AmigaOne boards is growing, nice things to see, but lets have the OS updated first. Then nettop, and voila ... whole new world


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The "X1000" product line will be well supported and have eventual successors in the future



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"never understand the Xorro/Xena thing completely, one should be just the XMOS chip, other the bus that allows more XMOS add-ons."

Yes. Xena is this: http://www.xmos.com/products/xs1-l-family/l2qn124
And it's connected to CPU and xorro slot like this: http://a-eon.com/pics/xena.jpg

Xena can function on it's own and communicate with the CPU, but without extra card on xorro it's usability is not too good. Xena has 1000MIPS performance, so it would not be good as accelerator.

With xorro slot you can access xena I/O lines. Those I/O lines can be programmed to enable the connection of a lot of more xcore chips to the system or just to function as input & output lines. For example if you have a xorro card that has sockets for 9pin cables, you could program xena to make those cables/socets/connectors to function as joystick ports (or what ever).

xorro slot is "in tandem" with one of the PCIe x1 slots (a little bit like one zorro3 slot is in tandem with video slot on A4000). It will enable one to build a card where xena controls events of the board and data can be transferred via PCIe. (the link from xena to CPU has interrupt line and some 30MB/s data connection, while PCIe x1 v2 can transfer 250MB/s)

Xenas DSP performance could enable it's use as some kind of audio chip (3D sound recorder & output, speech in/out etc.). DSP performance information can be read here:
http://www.xmos.com/published/dsp-performance-xs1-l-device

About the review...
Varisys was asked if their css(orwhatever) board could be used as motherboard for AOS4, strange, this would be far better vcp6
But yes, it would require at least GPU upgrade.

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@Kimmok

vc6 was REALLY a nice toy :)
Quite fast as X1000 does :)

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Just keep pushing out those software updates and you will continue to see good support from the community.

Yes, sir.

We also need to get an updated SDK out the door. There are a few changes and some new API functions which developers will be interested in.


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