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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 26-Feb-2012 21:17:54
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| Nice news! Such a great piece of software.
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 26-Feb-2012 21:21:26
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| Good to see clean 3.0 as well as such rapid development of usable and free app.
P.S. note a dead link that tries to forward to www.o4depot.net please add that s to be os4 depot in link Last edited by vox on 26-Feb-2012 at 09:22 PM.
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 26-Feb-2012 21:25:37
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| Thanks Vox! I'll get right on it.
Moxee Last edited by Moxee on 26-Feb-2012 at 09:26 PM.
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 27-Feb-2012 2:57:52
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Thanks alot. You and I disagreed in the past but I have to say you are doing excellent work with JACK. Its a MUST HAVE for OS4 especially for noobs |
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 27-Feb-2012 4:08:21
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Well, not bad at all however i note some little glitch that maybe need to solved
- As some of us suggest to you early you might add a proper (and unique) antialias font for all the program and "subprograms", would be better to use exact the same antialias font for all the program interface (like the good one you are using for the calendar)
- The new video feature are great, however when a video playback is finished how about close the video window automatically and then reopen Jack ?
- The hand cursor you are using is sometimes a bit annoying imho, expecially because if i move the mouse outside the Jack area it still "activated", if you ask me i will remove it completely leaving the normal AmigaOS cursor pointer only .. to show the highlighted buttons (when the cursor is above a clickable button) you may use a hover highlighted effect instead
- Program is always a bit slow, it need some second at startup, but also to open the various "sub-programs" when the main program is opended, hope that you can do somethings to speed up it a bit more !
- ESC key for close Jack doesn't work or i miss somethings ?
Well, hope that my suggest can be usefull and applicable in a way or another, congrats for all the rest _________________ BACK FOR THE FUTURE
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 27-Feb-2012 4:10:57
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| One note I have for Jack is I'd like to see the icons surrounding the window bigger, they are hard to see for me..
Also how do you change Ceclius to Farenheit? |
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 27-Feb-2012 12:13:07
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| Thanks for all the comments and feedback.
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One note I have for Jack is I'd like to see the icons surrounding the window bigger, they are hard to see for me. |
You won't be saying they are too small when you all own a Netbook! Its pretty huge on a 1024x768 display already!
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As some of us suggest to you early you might add a proper (and unique) antialias font for all the program and "subprograms", would be better to use exact the same antialias font for all the program interface (like the good one you are using for the calendar) |
99% of the text processing passes through a standard function that ensures antialias is enabled. Also like many I don't use a computer monitor these days I use a cheap TV so its hard to spot the difference. If there is some rogue text not being antialiased you need to more specific.
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The new video feature are great, however when a video playback is finished how about close the video window automatically and then reopen Jack ? |
Okay thats doable.
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ESC key for close Jack doesn't work or i miss somethings ? |
LAMIGA/RAMIGA+Q is always quit in AmigaOS is it not? I'll change ESC to act as Iconify? That would make more sense right for a commodity? Great, lets do that. :)
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The hand cursor you are using is sometimes a bit annoying imho, expecially because if i move the mouse outside the Jack area it still "activated", if you ask me i will remove it completely leaving the normal AmigaOS cursor pointer only .. to show the highlighted buttons (when the cursor is above a clickable button) you may use a hover highlighted effect instead |
Yeah Hollywood doesn't have any kind of OnWindowOver or OnWindowOut events; I might look into the idea you propose. I've thought about this kind of thing before - well something similar - If Hollywood had those two commands I'd like the Jack interface to be me more transparent and when you hover the mouse over it become less transparent.
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Program is always a bit slow, it need some second at startup, but also to open the various "sub-programs" when the main program is opened, hope that you can do somethings to speed up it a bit more ! |
Graphically, Jack doesn't make full use of hardware accelerated brushes yet; its actually quite tricky to implement. Startup, I'll see what I can do to reduce the 'load' - I think there is room for optimisation still.
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Also how do you change Ceclius to Farenheit? |
Type 'c' or press the config button along the bottom.Last edited by djrikki on 27-Feb-2012 at 01:55 PM. Last edited by djrikki on 27-Feb-2012 at 12:14 PM.
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 27-Feb-2012 16:45:51
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| @djrikki
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99% of the text processing passes through a standard function that ensures antialias is enabled. Also like many I don't use a computer monitor these days I use a cheap TV so its hard to spot the difference. If there is some rogue text not being antialiased you need to more specific. |
Well as i can see antialias is used only for the main window, this one:
http://jackforamigaos.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/jack2-9preview4.png
All the other windows program does not use it at all, also each one used a completely different font as each component was taken by another project ... so the general aspect looks no consistent
For example the "add event", "configure helper" and "Google currency" fonts looks very bad on my monitor
http://jackforamigaos.wordpress.com/screenshots/
Just try to use exactly the same font (and even better the same dimention font and antialias effect that you already use for the main window) and all should be more consistent
Maybe you can ask djnick for help
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LAMIGA/RAMIGA+Q is always quit in AmigaOS is it not? I'll change ESC to act as Iconify? That would make more sense right for a commodity? Great, lets do that. :) |
Well at the end "LAMIGA + Q" should be fine to close, or even a small exit button on the main GUI
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Yeah Hollywood doesn't have any kind of OnWindowOver or OnWindowOut events; I might look into the idea you propose. I've thought about this kind of thing before - well something similar - If Hollywood had those two commands I'd like the Jack interface to be me more transparent and when you hover the mouse over it become less transparent. |
Ok, hope somethings similar would be possible _________________ BACK FOR THE FUTURE
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 27-Feb-2012 22:37:14
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Those three windows use Monospacing for strings and textfields (I've made field labels proportial now), must be that Hollywood isn't applying anti-alias to them even though I ask it too. I'll see if there is a solution. On the plus side, I've made directory listings in the filemanager and a few other places use a proportional font where monospacing isn't essential. During this effort I've noticed a bug in the knowledge-base.... the A-Z and articles text should highlight Red on mouseover.. sigh.
As for Typefaces, aside from the large fonts you see in the knowledge-base everything else is the same True-Type font. Last edited by djrikki on 27-Feb-2012 at 10:43 PM. Last edited by djrikki on 27-Feb-2012 at 10:40 PM.
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 28-Feb-2012 16:28:20
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Mmm what font are you using for the main window ? Maybe you can use it also for all the other windows instead of the monospacing _________________ BACK FOR THE FUTURE
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 28-Feb-2012 19:29:00
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I don't know the name, its an internal font that Hollywood uses so it appears the same on all platforms. Monospacing is used in many OSes, applications an web forms to determine the maximum size to draw a GUI element. For example, hit reply on this post, take a look at the Preview/Post Comment list box below the smilies it uses 'Courier New' (or similar depending on Browser) - which is a monospaced font.
http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~jdalbey/SWE/monospaced.html
^^ Explains the difference between monospace and proportional - case you don't understand why I have to use it.
I've reported the bug to Andreas (HW Developer) for his review. Last edited by djrikki on 28-Feb-2012 at 07:38 PM. Last edited by djrikki on 28-Feb-2012 at 07:31 PM. Last edited by djrikki on 28-Feb-2012 at 07:29 PM.
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Re: Jack 3.0 released for AmigaOS Posted on 2-Mar-2012 16:35:33
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