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Internet News   Internet News : Congress mulls prison terms for KaZaA users
   posted by _Steve_ on 17-Jul-2003 20:54:18 (1629 reads)
Not satisfied with hacking P2P networks, or destroying the computers of file sharers, House Hollywood sock puppet Howard Berman (Democrat, California) is now sponsoring legislation that would jail people who trade as little as one MP3 on the Internet.

Berman has hooked up with House Judiciary Committee Ranking Member John Conyers (Democrat, Michigan) to produce this Hobbesian proposal. "While existing laws have been useful in stemming this problem, they simply do not go far enough," Conyers is quoted as saying.

Details are sketchy but it appears that the legislation would simply assume that any P2P activity with a copyrighted file involves more than ten copies and represents a retail value of $2,500, automatically making it a felony and bringing in the possibility of incarceration. That's ten copies and a minimum of $2,500 assumed per individual file, we believe.

It's some pretty fuzzy math, the idea that a single song would cost $250 at retail, but that's what we elect these guys to do: ignore common decency for the greater benefit of the cartels that own them.

Berman has proven himself to be among the most eager of the RIAA's toadying eunuchs on Capitol Hill. He's proposed letting the recording industry attack P2P networks with malicious code; he's proposed forcing the FBI to drop anti-terror investigations in favor of copyright protection; and now he's offered to put people in jail for making a single music file available to others. A sterling record of devoted service by any measure.

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Re: Congress mulls prison terms for KaZaA users
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Definately after "Campaign money" from the RIAA !!


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in addition to my usual Amiga BBS trolling, I spend sometime rattling the cages over at RIAA, working actively in my state to overturn the legislation they sponsor and to campaign against the 'hollywood sock puppet' state legislatures....

I loved this article, thats why I had to comment....loved the strong language.

Throwing people in jail for copying a music file...well, don't you know, we already have more people in jail per capita than any other country....I guess this is all based on the theory that you just can't throw enough people into prison

especially if it may or may not help record company profits.

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As I understood, nobody is allowed to unleash code on your system that can cause damage as they are proposing there. Such tactics are testamount to viral infection of your machine (not to mention highly illegal in most countries), and so you would in theory be able to sue them for damages caused.

So, they fine you $2500 for sharing a file, you sue them for a few hundred thousand for damages (or knowing how american courts can be, probably a few million ) I wonder how big the RIAAs cash reserves are

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These politicians just don't have a clue. I can tell you that I work on peoples computers within their homes every day of the week. Most of these people are better off than the average joe (middle to upper class), and every single one of them has teenagers that have Kaaza installed on their PC. These are VOTING PEOPLE. Wonder how many votes these politicians think they will get by lobbying behind this... Guess what Mr Senator, you picked the wrong "buzz word" to follow on this one.

I'm sorry, but there are WAY MORE important issues in the world than someone sharing an MP3 file. The RIAA is a loose cannon that needs to be stopped. I don't agree with piracy, but the "gestapo method" they are using is way outta line.

Can anyone here tell me the difference between sharing an MP3 file with a friend, and recording a song off of the radio air waves and making a copy for your friends to listen to (other than sound quality)???? This is where they will loose their arguement. It's not against the law to record a song from the radio on tape, but they want to throw you in jail for making an mp3 file and sharing it? Get real, you might as well outlaw tape recorders while you are at it.... Oh yeah, and VCR's and Digital Recordable TV too! Otherwise, they need to start arresting anyone who records an episode of "I love Lucy" and makes copies for a friend.

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Also, in recent news, people caught tailgating in the UK are now being charged with attempted manslaughter and given life sentences.

"It's important for even minor crimes to take a strong stand against crime" said the right honourable David Blunkett.

 
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Herewegoagain wrote:

Can anyone here tell me the difference between sharing an MP3 file with a friend, and recording a song off of the radio air waves and making a copy for your friends to listen to (other than sound quality)????


None... And as for "sound quality", what happens when digital radio becomes standard? Will the broadcasters intentionally degrade the quality of broadcasts so as to be as 'bad' as analog radio??? Perhaps station identification or a commercial will be inserted into the middle of a song, so as to prevent listeners from 'bootlegging'??? I wonder???


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Yeah , But with Non linear sound editors freely available its dead easy to cut & splice !!

Some of the hard to find songs I've gotten off KaZaa have the nds chopped off crap fashion ... I just load em up in MSpro's audio Editor and put a nice fade on em.


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