Out standing!

Come and get 'em while they last!

I got mine already!

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I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

Well done to Varisys, A-Eon and Amikit and all the buyers for making the X1000 an institution in Amiga country.

Look forward to see who shows up on aw.net as new X1000 owners (wish I was one of them)

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I am on the 'registered interest' list, but since the announcement of the Cyrus boards that are supposed to be cheaper and more powerful I find myself wanting to wait for those, even if it's 18 months away.

£2200 is a lot of money, and if the Cyrus boards come in at, say, £1500 then I might stick with my Sam440. 18 months is not a long wait in Amiga terms.

It's a shame the new boards were announced as I'd have most probably bought an X1000 without the indecision. Can anyone come up with a sufficiently convincing case for getting the X1000 now?

@ROMwack

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Can anyone come up with a sufficiently convincing case for getting the X1000 now?

Hard to say. My intention was to buy X1000, but its final price was 50 % above my projected budget for this project, so Cyrus is clear choice for me. As I see it, X1000 has only two real advantages in comparison to Cyrus: is available now and has true PCIe x16 connector.

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As I see it, X1000 has only two real advantages in comparison to Cyrus: is available now and has true PCIe x16 connector.

and has Altivec... not that it counts much, but some software might benefit from it.

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and has Altivec... not that it counts much, but some software might benefit from it.

If P5020 is at least 1.5x faster than PA6T, then AltiVec will give real advantage only in few tasks (eg. lame). Sure, we don´t know how fast e5500 core really is.

@ROMwack Quote:

Cyrus boards that are supposed to be cheaper and more powerful

I think you have been misinformed: Trevor told me (at the Silicon Dreams VCF show) that the cheaper (dual-core) version will be similar in price to the X1000, but they will actually make a profit on this one (unlike the X1000) that will allow future developments, while the POSSIBLE future quad-core one will be even more expensive.

i.e. The Cyrus will be cheaper to make, but not necessarily cheaper to buy. They just won't be making a loss when they sell it.

At least that was my understanding. I don't speak for Trevor of course, and his plans may change anyway.

P.S. I would take any speed guestimate of the Cyrus vs X1000 with a large pinch of salt. Most likely the dual-core Cyrus will be roughly similar in speed to the X1000.

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@ChrisH

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Trevor told me that the cheaper (dual-core) version will be similar in price to the X1000

Then no Cyrus for me.

I still hope it will be cheaper than X1000.

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while the POSSIBLE future quad-core one will be even more expensive.

That would be insane. Better spend money on the x86 port.

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Nice work team!

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Better spend money on the x86 port.

Please don't derail this thread by the 8th post. That topic has been discussed to the death, and never goes anywhere. However, if you really do wish to discuss it Infinity+1 times, then you can of course start a new thread dedicated to it...

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@WolfToTheMoon Quote:

Altivec... not that it counts much, but some software might benefit from it.

Please don't post about things you know nothing about :
http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=160#p2021

Personally, I suspect that AltiVec is used by OS4 for scaling of bitmaps, when Compositing cannot use normal (graphics) hardware-accelerated scaling (due to hardware-imposed limitations).

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same price as X1000 or even more expensive with a 4 core version!?
Wow... this will be interesting to watch, as with how many buyers will be left after X1000 era to buy Cyrus, for a similar price. Can't say I feel positive about this, but what the hell... not my money, anyway

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Surely I will not be waiting for X2000 with ready money since I am getting X1000,
but I do see this as twice good news:

a) Those who buy X1000 have made X2000 possible
b) Those who were dissapointed by X1000 price will have x2000 as successor
X2000 should be available longer, maybe even in better batches and thus
can be promoted as x1000 deserved, as well as I do hope OS 4.2 will be finalized
within that 12-18 months period, so might be fully supported by OS

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i must admit that what trevor achieves is quite impressive (hardwarewise). the board looks sweet. the problem is rather the lacking os4 support. whatever the case, even though im rather affiliated with aros and not really intend to buy any a-eon product (at least not any soon) im thankful for keeping alternative open and will be keeping my eye on it, just as i do on morphos. ;)

@ROMwack

Cyrus is a development project- it does not exist as a commercial product. There is a long way to go in the process and pricing is certainly not confirmed. No one knows what the prices of the Freescale chips will be in the next two years. No announcement has been made regarding prices or sale dates- it's just too early in the development cycle.

The AmigaOne X1000 is here, it is a quality, reliable product, it has new driver updates, and is enjoyed by Amigans. There's more to come...

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@ChrisH

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Please don't derail this thread by the 8th post.

I think you'd already managed that in post #7.
Perhaps better to post a reply in the relevant thread and post a link here to your reply. It would reduce the chances of this diverging into a Cyrus pricing discussion.

/OT

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I wonder how many x1000 have been sold after the 3. batch.

Any way I can't afford an x1000 just yet, and when I can, I bet they will all be sold out. So for now I am sticking with my sam and waiting for the cyrus.

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If you get your hands on x1000 and have money get it, ok if you want to wait but we dont know the price or comparison before its ready. And the x1000 is not dead by far, more updateds to come, os4.2/warp3d etc. Hell i buy something after the x1000 but then it has to be a couple of times faster and amigaos that uses smp and x1000 fully which means when i feel im limited and bored on x1000 :)

But yes x1000 it totally pricey and as someone said, our buying of x1000 funds next generation x-amigas. The same for Acube hardware. Both funds os4.

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@all

Thanks for all the comments, I think I'm just looking for someone to talk me into getting one

@kicko you are absolutely right, I will see whats out there once Ive saved enough money to upgrade the sam440

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