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Internet News   Internet News : VeriSign hijack domain typos
   posted by DaveyD on 19-Sep-2003 21:58:22 (2071 reads)
The domain registrar VeriSign recently added wildcard DNS records to all .com and .net domains - redirecting surfers who get lost on the Net to a search page, called Site Finder, run by the company. Those who type in non-existent addresses will also be served up Site Finder, instead of an error message.

This means that the basic 'sender domain does not resolve' check in sendmail and many other mail server software is now obsolete because any .net and .com now resolves. This will open the internet up to more spam.

The alterations will frustrate commonly used anti-spam techniques. Mail packages often check to see whether the domain an email is coming from is valid but with the changes all domains have suddenly become valid, frustrating the technique.

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reflect 
Re: VeriSign hijack domain typos
Posted on 19-Sep-2003 22:10:37
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Know what? I hate it when I type the wrong address and someone decides to ship me off to some totally different place. It's just confusing that something gets loaded in the browser when it shouldn't. You look again at the domain name and then at the contents.. or those "this site is for sale!" .. eh, ok, do I care? If I want to reg my own domain, I can do that with a proper domain registrar that has domain search engines etc.

Things like this pisses me off.


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Re: VeriSign hijack domain typos
Posted on 19-Sep-2003 22:12:21
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All of your URL r belong to us.


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Re: VeriSign hijack domain typos
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@reflect
I hate it to, but this verisign dns wildcard is worse, now we can't get error messages from our servers for diagnosing problems, and it prevents anti-spam software from working.


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Re: VeriSign hijack domain typos
Posted on 19-Sep-2003 23:45:00
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Confirmed:

I'm not getting redirected to a web page, getting server errors, BUT:
in Windows XP (Not sure of the exact syntax in Linux)
Ping www.adhasdfkhskjs.com (i.e www.random chars .com)
Pings 64.94.110.11

If you now do a ping -a 64.94.110.11 (Which does a lookup of the domain name from the IP address )
You get back the address sitefinder-idn.verisign.com

Very naughty, I'm of to sign that petition !

Edit:
I've tried to sign the petition, it lets me fill in my details, but gives me a page cannot be displayed error when I try to post the details. Anyone else having problems ?. I'll try again later

 
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Brian 
Re: VeriSign hijack domain typos
Posted on 20-Sep-2003 0:16:22
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I also tried to sign that thing but fialed so next step was to block all in and outgoing data from/to sitefinder.verisign.com in my firewall... at least I don't get redirected to this bs any more.

Wonder when antispam systems will start checking not only that the sender exist but also that it's not this verisigns bs... AND more important if it is verisigns cr@pp then redirect the spam to them!


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Re: VeriSign hijack domain typos
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The petition is currently blocked at 178 signatures.

I've written to the site support address to ask for it to be unblocked. Apparently there were nearly 13000 signatures on the original petition, which had ot be scrapped due to security worries.

 
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DaveyD 
Re: VeriSign hijack domain typos
Posted on 20-Sep-2003 8:38:20
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VeriSign are making lots of money from these redirects, I think VeriSign have over stepped their authority.

The goodnews is that The Internet Software Consortium, the non-profit body that develops the ubiquitous BIND domain name server, has adapted its software so that those users who enter mistyped domain names are served up with old-style error messages instead of Site Finder.


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Re: VeriSign hijack domain typos
Posted on 20-Sep-2003 9:39:38
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Well i have just blocked VeriSign's IP address, so I (hopefully) won't be seeing thier stupid site.

This beggers belive, I am half tempted to send ALL my spam to them, as a way of saying thankyou for the service.

Gemini


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Re: VeriSign hijack domain typos
Posted on 20-Sep-2003 9:55:37
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The worst part of this is that if you have a secondary mailserver set up (in case the primary one goes down) and the company hosting it for you makes a mistake you will end up with sitefinder.verisign.com receiving AND REPLYING "no such user" to your incoming emails.

This is REALLY horrible.

And for some reason it doesn't work to sign the petition (I get an error when I click on "approve signature")


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Re: VeriSign hijack domain typos
Posted on 20-Sep-2003 14:54:59
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To make this type of change to this type of service without consultation and with very little warning, if any, is a disgrace.

Just wait until all those companies who have lost time and money from this change start to line up at their door with lawyers in tow. It is just about plausable.

Tried the petition as well but still blocked it seems. What were the security concerns? email addresses not being stored safely? Surely that's not too hard to fix?


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