@Menthos

"One thing that keep bugging me is the removal of the right mouse button shows volumes in file requesters! Is there some way to get it back?"

ASL :

• There is not any distintion between a load file requester and a save file requester. Before than now we can identify a save requester with different colours, this thing could be implementable now for example writting directory with a red colour and file with white color or similar. I hope we will can reaquire load/save distinction;


• file requester behaviour is different from directory requester one: in a requester where you can choose files, you open a directory with a double click, while in a requester which opens directory you opens a directory with one click. This conduces me to confusion;


• When it's opened a file requester in which you can select more files, it gives you a strange feature to select more the one directory. Ambiguos;


• When you open a file requester the focus is not just into string of name file, but it gains focus after you press a key, so if you want find in a directory file "foo" with keyboard like old ASL, if you write "foo", new ASL takes "oo". You must select name string with mouse befor to write any thing;

@raumfahre

"Noticed that windows autoupdate with 4.1.No need to do "update window content" manually"

Are you sure? I had to install autoupdatewb on OS4.1...

@ShInKurO

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Are you sure? I had to install autoupdatewb on OS4.1...

Ah, perhaps tomazkid (post #7) did an "update" to 4.1 from 4.0 and had forgotten that he already had this utility installed?

I haven't installed my copy of 4.1 yet so can't comment with certainty.

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@Menthos

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How do I know I have the SWAP correct and working?

Copy to RAM Disk a file bigger than the amount of physical RAM you have - if the copy succeeds, then swapping is working fine.

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I tried to make a partition with the new filesystem but the format command newer showed that partition. What could I have done wrong, or how do I access that partition?

Maybe you have not mounted the partition (check the automount option in MediaToolbox or use the "mount" command). When mounted, the partition should appear also on the WB.

saimo

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@ShInKurO

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When you open a file requester the focus is not just into string of name file, but it gains focus after you press a key, so if you want find in a directory file "foo" with keyboard like old ASL, if you write "foo", new ASL takes "oo". You must select name string with mouse befor to write any thing;

This is very good, because before you could not close an ASL by keyboard because you could never get to the OK or Cancel button. The focus was stuck alternatying between the string gadgets for dir and file.

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@ShInKurO

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There is not any distintion between a load file requester and a save file requester. Before than now we can identify a save requester with different colours, this thing could be implementable now for example writting directory with a red colour and file with white color or similar. I hope we will can reaquire load/save distinction;

IIRC it has been like this for a while.
I remember an OS developer (cannot say who, though) stating that he *did* want it that way when the issue was brought to attention a while back.
I agree that the distinction was a good thing.

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file requester behaviour is different from directory requester one: in a requester where you can choose files, you open a directory with a double click, while in a requester which opens directory you opens a directory with one click. This conduces me to confusion;

Yes, it is a bit confusing at first... but having to double-click to enter a directory is even worse

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When it's opened a file requester in which you can select more files, it gives you a strange feature to select more the one directory. Ambiguos;

This could be useful for programs that accept multiple directories in input. IMHO not really a problem, anyway.
edit: maybe this is the reason behind double-cliking to enter directories...

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When you open a file requester the focus is not just into string of name file, but it gains focus after you press a key, so if you want find in a directory file "foo" with keyboard like old ASL, if you write "foo", new ASL takes "oo". You must select name string with mouse befor to write any thing;

This does not happen here - are you sure?

saimo

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@saimo

The Virtual Mem isn't to my likings. I wonder how slow it is. Had VM on AmigaOS 3.1 back in 1994 or so. It was VERY SLOW :)

And hope they keep improve OWB. Funny, the 2.8 version, i can't run from Harddisk at all. I have to move it to Ram to be able to start it. Any ideas, anyone ?.

Other than that. Very satisfied with my OS4.1 :) Hope we can use JXFS on boot partition in the future.

@Deniil715

It can be solved distinguishing between shortcut for closing ASL requester (ESC) and other keys which instead user thinks to use on the string...
It always not good to remove a tested and understood behaviour without an important reason... User doesn't want to learn new behaviours to do the same things...instead he pas to use old version because he has just understand how it works...These are basic usability concepts...

@saimo

"This could be useful for programs that accepts multiple directories in input. IMHO not really a problem, anyway."

It's a problem if that requester is setted (and thought) to give user to choose more files, no more directories In fact it's should be considered like a bug, not a feature... A new feature in this case would be a tag for relative ASL function which permitt to dev to choose if enable or disable that...

"This does not happen here - are you sure?"

Yes I am... if you're a betatester probably it was just fixed...

@Speedy

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The Virtual Mem isn't to my likings. I wonder how slow it is. Had VM on AmigaOS 3.1 back in 1994 or so. It was VERY SLOW :)

Of course it is slow: a hard drive cannot match physical RAM speed
VM is only a fallback option for when physical RAM is full.

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And hope they keep improve OWB. Funny, the 2.8 version, i can't run from Harddisk at all. I have to move it to Ram to be able to start it. Any ideas, anyone ?.

Download version 2.9 (now it's on OS4Depot too)

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Other than that. Very satisfied with my OS4.1 :) Hope we can use JXFS on boot partition in the future.

Yesterday I made a small benchmark with diskspeed: JFXS turned out to be slightly slower than SFS (*not* SFS2, which I do not use) in most of the tests. Unless one needs 64-bit support, I would not recommend it (also because data recovery support is not there yet).
Edit: more benchmarks here on Amigans.net.

saimo

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@ShInKurO

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"This could be useful for programs that accepts multiple directories in input. IMHO not really a problem, anyway." It's a problem if that requester is setted (and thought) to give user to choose more files, no more directories In fact it's should be considered like a bug, not a feature... A new feature in this case would be a tag for relative ASL function which permitt to dev to choose if enable or disable that...

From a programming POV, I agree that the behaviour should be definable.
But from a user POV, I can't see the problem: it's not mind-shattering to be able to select multiple directories (and files)
BTW: I can *not* select multiple directories here!

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"This does not happen here - are you sure?" Yes I am... if you're a betatester probably it was just fixed...

No, I am not.

saimo

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@saimo

Nice, this is better than sex :D

Just noticed my Diskspeed 4.4 doesn't work on A1. Never did test that tho'. But now replacing it with the OS4 one :)

But OWB still only works when i start it from Ram. From HD, either JXFS or boot partition. I get the "Unable to open your tool 'OWB'."

Very weird

@Speedy

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But OWB still only works when i start it from Ram. From HD, either JXFS or boot partition. I get the "Unable to open your tool 'OWB'." Very weird

Definitely.
Have you checked the protection bits (sounds unlikely, I know, but I can't think of anything else now...)?

saimo

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@saimo

"BTW: I can *not* select multiple directories here!"

RWIW, it happens on file requesters which permitt to select more then one file, like ASL load requester on NoWinED...

"No, I am not."?

Strange, pheraphs you have personalized your wb and with your personatization the problem is not visible. I've few personalized my OS and it happens even with default configuration of ASL...

@ShInKurO

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"BTW: I can *not* select multiple directories here!" RWIW, it happens on file requesters which permitt to select more then one file, like ASL load requester on NoWinED...

Sorry, my fault: forgot to try the MULTISELECT option of RequestFile (which I was using for testing)

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Strange, pheraphs you have personalized your wb and with your personatization the problem is not visible. I've few personalized my OS and it happens even with default configuration of ASL...

I have deeply customized my system, but of course as regards ASL all I can do is what the ASL preferences program allows.
Anyway, I downloaded your program and tried: I can confirm that the file gadget does get the focus automatically.

saimo

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@saimo

Exactly.

All and everything i copy to my HD has RW-D. Soon as i change it to RWED. This one loads.

Thanks :)

@Speedy

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All and everything i copy to my HD has RW-D.

May I ask why? Is it a choice or a problem?

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Thanks :)

You're welcome

saimo

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@saimo

"I can confirm that the file gadget does get the focus automatically."

Please you open UnArc, open the first ASL file requester and drop on it an icon of a directory. Now you write a word, your word will miss itself of the first character. This is what I wanted figure you :)

So to be more precise:

• Now if you drop a directory on an ASL file requester and you write "foo", the focus of ASL file requester will be on string file name after second character instead from the first one, so if you write "foo", on string file name will appear "oo";

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@saimo

I have no idea why. When i unpack OWB to Ram. It's RWED. When i copy it to HD JXFS partition, it becomes RW-D.

No idea why it change the file doing so.

Just did it a few times :D This time, i could copy the file to Boot partition and it didn't change.

Since i use Diskmaster, i bet it's just a diskmaster bug.

A little suggest to AmiPDF dev:

Can you insert this behaviour (more intuitive and few errors from user use of the program while he reads a pdf):

• ArrowKeyUp/ArrowKeyDown: move up/down the visualized page (page n);


• ArrowKeyLeft/ArrowKeyRight: move to (n-1) page/ move to (n+1) page;