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      /   ...My dear Hyperion, is now the time to go to --> x86 ??? part 2
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Re: ...My dear Hyperion, is now the time to go to --> x86 ??? part 2
Posted on 28-Mar-2009 11:26:31
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I want a OS that is near 100% compatible with AOS to run 68k programs well and fa

Man.. people will never look forward... sigh... backwards, backwards...

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      Re: ...My dear Hyperion, is now the time to go to --> x86 ??? part 2bernd_afa28-Mar-2009 14:44:55
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Re: ...My dear Hyperion, is now the time to go to --> x86 ??? part 2
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So i have what i want, only 1 cosmetic problem but that doesnt matter to me.it run not native currently.it is possible too, but unecessary more work, here i have no motivation to do, because a X86 with winuae is faster than any OS4 Hardware.I have a AMD 64 3000+ 1,8 GHZ real, openredalert do 60 fps and if thats not enough, i can for few money get a 2* faster X86.and if thats not enough, i can use native dualcore code and if thats too slow, i can use CUDA and a directx10.1 GFX Card.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1sN1ELJfNo
OpenCL demo on NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M GPU aka Geforce 8600 GT/9500M GS/9600M/9650M/9700M.

http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=6954
AMD/ATI Radeon HD's Havok demo OpenCL accelerated physics.

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Re: ...My dear Hyperion, is now the time to go to --> x86 ??? part 2
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of course, but there is nothing for AOS (neither MOS neither OS4) here that is so much better as macx to mac9 or win3 to win95.

Well, MorphOS has the QBox which already provides everything needed...

But you need to work on it... It won't appear magically. The thing is if you put focus on old box, it won't appear. And more and more apps will become available for the old one, making it a must have. We're just recreating a need for an emulation layer for OS4... This can go on and on forever...

One day Apple decided to put focus on the development of MacOSX and get rid of MacOS9 old kernel. One day MS decided to put focus on the development of NT, and get rid of 16bit old kernel...

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Re: ...My dear Hyperion, is now the time to go to --> x86 ??? part 2
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OS4 and MOS have no GUI API for memprotect, so nobody can write programs for memprotect.OS4 only support to alloc protectet mem, but this can also done with mmulib.

The thing is you cannot incremently add this kind of features using the old exec lib, you need to have a new kernel. And break everything. And Quark already provides support for memory protection for MorphOS...

So spend as much time as you want writting new libs, some day you'll discover you have to break everything (including all the programs that were written using your lib)...

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but on OS4 and MOS is no progress see since long time in direction of memprotect AOS API, they add the kernel very soon, but in last 7 years, what is done other as a Kernel to bring AOS to level that winxp or mac x have ?

MOS-Team stated they had no intention on working on a next generation OS (ie: use QBox for developing a new OS).

As for OS4, they took a different approach, and I don't see memory protection coming any time soo, especially seeing some apps are being developed for the current API, and would need to be emulated, or work somehow.

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